Login Here






Lost Password?
No account yet? Register
Will he leave his wife
I have been having an affair with a married man for nearly ten years. He says he loves me and wants to leave his wife but it never happens. There are always excuses one after the other. I never see him outside of the working environment. I just do not think that he has the guts to leave her. All the promises he has made has not come to fruition. Deep in my heart I hope he will leave but don't think he ever will.

I know you are going to tell me to forget about him and carry on with my life - but easier said than done. His wife is very materialistic and very worried about status even though she is not interested in their marriage at all but her attitude is "what will the people think?"

Why does he still stay with her, he does the entire cooking, cleaning etc. Where does that leave me???

Response:

Relationships are often governed by competing emotions. And in your case, two separate issues might help explain what is going on – understanding the difference between "being in love" and "attachment."

Love is a strong emotion which typically involves passion and desire – a need to be physically and emotionally intimate with another person. Love is designed to bring people together.

Attachment, on the other hand, is the sense of security, stability and comfort which people derive from their relationships. Attachment is designed to keep people together (see, forming attachments).

Because we form attachments to each other, when relationships come to an end, people suffer tremendous sense of loss. The loss of an attachment partner takes away one's sense of security and stability. As such, the loss of an attachment partner is one of life's most negative experiences.

Again, love and attachment do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. It is possible to be in love with one person, but have an attachment to someone else.

From your question, it sounds like he loves you, but he is still attached to his wife. If this is the case, it would be very difficult for him to leave her. Attachment bonds can keep people together, even when love is missing in a relationship. In all likelihood, leaving this wife would cause him tremendous loss and suffering.

Where does this leave you?

With a lover who is most likely attached to someone else. Not the most ideal situation to find yourself in. Most men in this type of situation do not leave their wives (see, cheating husband and cheating spouse survey).

Ultimately, there is probably little you can do to change things. You are trapped between two very strong and fundamental human emotions (also see, sexual desire, love and attachment).
Comments (172)add
...
written by Guest , March 26, 2006
This is the truth!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
...
written by InTheSameShoes , November 02, 2006
Damn if this isn't the truth, I don't know what is!!!! Maybe I should listen to this joker!!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
IN THE SAME BOAT
written by Lover , November 16, 2006
Everything said is so true.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by I'm there , November 16, 2006
I been in a relationship for 14 years. He also had excuses and babies kept popping up. He kept saying he was forced. Now he involved another woman in the circle. So it's his wife, me and another woman. I called the other woman and broke up with him. It does hurt and I hoping that my feelings will go away in time. The worse part, I see him everyday. So it only gets worse. You should talk with him and see if you can manage a future or get away from him fast.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
its a fool game
written by FOOLNOLONGER , January 02, 2007
Don't waste your life on these weak men.

finish it immediately then spend some time alone to discover who you are and what you really want and deserve from life.

Only once you learn to value and respect yourself will you begin to attract the right type of people in your life.

I have just wasted 9 months trying to understand why my male colleague who is clearly infatuated with me physically, intellectually and emotionally has chosen to stay with his immature, needy, clingy, dependent, unreliable and not particularly attractive girlfriend of 18 months.
NO MORE !!! I have put a stop to his games and regained power and control of my life !!! YOU CAN AND SHOULD DO THE SAME !!!! GOOD LUCK !!!!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
Reality check
written by Anonymous , January 21, 2007
I was involved with a married man for two years until I recently ended it completely. The fact of the matter is, in RARE instances there is ever a happy ending to an affair. Take a deep look into what started the affair, why you're still in it and by all means stop assuming he'll ever leave his wife for you. My advice is to be strong, connect with friends and find happiness that you certainly deserve without the deceit and heartache.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
So true
written by Eva , January 26, 2007
I broke up with him today after one year he made all the promises in the world to me..... I believe he loves me, but even if she threw him out he wouldn't leave.
just go away.. if he loves you he'll leave her and go after you, if not your life will be on track...
easier said than done, but be strong
good luck
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
or terrible peeps
written by None of you are alone... , February 23, 2007
It's refreshing to see a post with such positive and supporting commentary. Too often I've seen or even heard comments about "getting what you deserve" from this type of relationship. I was sexually abused by a married man I loved... my father when I was a small child... I suppose I deserved that too if you're in the aforementioned camp of reason. I don't think anyone should be punished for truly loving someone. I do think that at 31 and having found myself in a couple of situations like yours I've learned to be wary of the advances of people who are already committed. However, if you do find yourself there you must realize at a point you are being used not respected or loved. I still feel that one of men I was involved with would have been a perfect mate... however, he was committed to someone else and I finally realized that his financial investment in their home and business were worth more than his feelings for me. It hurt... it still hurts sometimes. Obviously, someone who would treat you in a similar manner is NOT worth suicide. Believe me, he is not the only man out there... and if you're stuck feeling that you need to keep in contact with him... do... BUT... my advice is start distancing yourself in gradual do-able steps and allow yourself to look for the love you desperately seek in some right places... explore the possibility of someone who will devote their time and love to you the way you have to him... and in the way your beautiful loving heart "deserves."
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
...
written by understanding , March 25, 2007
My wife asked me to read this blog and I felt compelled to write a few words about your situation. Actions speak volumes over words. I hope that after you read this blog that it may open your eyes to what he IS really doing "to" you. You deserve to be good to yourself and not look to a man to fulfill you and all your desires. He is using you and will continue to use you until he finds somebody else to manipulate. I do know what I am talking about because I was the THAT GUY in another life. He uses the right words and has used them throughout the 10 year affair and you are still wrapped up in his unadulterated BS. He uses his wife as an excuse to play you like a well tuned violin. Share this blog with your lover and ask him to respond to it if he dares but I assure you that he will not because a guy can see through his BS real fast. Signed: Am Over Myself
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by CARING , April 20, 2007
Just wanted to tell others it is so important to get to know someone before making a commitment for life. A family member got pregnant prior to graduation and married. They had been seeing each other for many years. Couple of years later the wife went to work in a career which was not well suited for family life - late hours etc. Not spending time at home. During the time at the new job she formed an attachment to someone else. Now a family is breaking up and heading in the wrong direction. A brokenhearted father and a wife with another man.
Think about the one who really has been there for you before going and seeking attention somewhere else. Work with what you have is very important because when it happens to you then it will make you think about what you have done and itâ??s over.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by btdt , April 23, 2007
How do you know his wife is not "interested in their marriage anymore?" You only know what he is telling you - and as the reformed man in this chat stated - "he is playing you like a well-tuned violin." I know because I was the other woman who is now being cheated on (same man) yet I certainly have been there for him in every way for 10 years and 100% invested in our relationship. There is absolutely no excuse for him to have done this to me.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by lise , May 04, 2007
I cheated on my husband with one of his friends. Me and this other guy became close very quickly and we just clicked, so to speak. We fell in love and talked every day and saw each other whenever we could. My husband knew something was going on and we got caught. Me and this other guy haven't spoke since it happened. The pain I caused my husband is horrible. I was selfish and I decided to find happiness elsewhere because I wasn't happy in my marriage. Nothing good comes from an affair. Everyone gets hurt. My husband will never get over this and I feel so guilty because of all the pain I've caused him. Just think of the guy's wife and how devastated she would be if she knew you and her husband had a 10 year affair. He will never leave her. If he hasn't left yet he never will. Dump him and stop wasting your life. Affairs are destructive and you need to put an end to it right away. It's the only way.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by wrw , June 04, 2007
My husband cheated on me. I found out through their emails. The other woman was desperate for him to leave, and he made all kinds of promises and excuses to her, about his weakness as a person, and how he needed her strength and love to help him get out. He said terrible things to her about my lack of caring, poor mothering and other stuff. None of the bits about me were true. I love him madly and he knows it - I told him all the time. I'm a good,loving mother to our 6 yr old boy. I know that quite a bit of what he told her was lies or half truths too, because I was able to compare what he'd told her with the reality of how it was. He was constantly reassuring me there was no one else, it was just that he was trying to work out who he was as a person (before I found the emails). He was promising her to move from me but had all sorts of excuses. In other words, don't assume your man is telling either of you the truth, or that his wife is so terrible. She probably knows something about the situation and its changed how she is as a person. I was driven mad by the lies and the intuitive knowledge of his cheating - I became depressed, anxious and intrusive. All the things that made me seem horrible, and her lovely and healthy.

Anyhow, he had to leave once I found out. Then he said he loved me and wanted us to get back together, but still kept on with the other woman, lying to us both. In the end I rang her and said we were both being lied to. After that he stopped the pretense with me. I guess moving out and being confronted with truth did break his attachment to me. They are still not together too, their relationship is still being conducted in secret as she's a parent at his school. I'd say it also suits him to have her a bit at a distance, with me grieving in the background too.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Ogog , June 08, 2007
I am a married man for 10 years. I had a relation with a woman for the last 6 months . I fell in love with her and really thought she was the woman I wanted to get older with. At the same time I had a 9 year old son that needed my love and time. My relation with my wife is not particularly bad but what I found in this woman was just something different. Conclusion, she left me for not making up my mind, I have a large emptiness in my heart.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
...
written by shenaynay , June 19, 2007
Sometimes, people do leave their husbands/wives for other people once they realize happiness is far better than misery/attachment. I have known people who have had extra marital affairs and made the hard choice to leave the "security" of the "family". Once the kids are grown, it's a whole new ball game..
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Hels Bells , July 02, 2007
I have been in a relationship with a married man for 4 years now and am so desperate for him to leave his wife. It sounds very similar to Ogog in that his relation with his wife is not particularly bad but what we have is different. I couldn't bear to be without him and know how much he would hurt if I were to leave him for not making up his mink which is why I take solace and hope from Shenaynay's post "Once the kids are grown, it's a whole new ball game.." His are 17 and 15.....problem is I am fed up of waiting, but couldn't bear to not have him in my life?!
Affairs are not as easy as people think - it is not all fun, frolicking and sneaking about - it is a lot of hanging about, attending things on your own, and the lonely heart achingly long Christmases. Your heart breaks again each year when they go on the annual family ski trip, each year you say never again - but here I am four years on, writing this!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by So Very Sad , July 04, 2007
I too hold on to the hope of "once the kids are grown" I've left my marriage, which was not right for me, after meeting the man I've been in an affair with for the past 2 years. His 18 yr.old leaves for college in late August. He has never told me that he would leave his wife, says he can't hurt his family that way, yet he loves me. I also believe he will never make a decision unless he is forced to...but I don't want to leave just to see how he reacts; I want to be ready to deal with the loss (which seems unbearable) and be strong enough to go on and make my life a good one. I wish I understood why he can't make a decision...I feel that obviously if he were committed to his marriage he wouldn't be with me,wouldn't care about what I felt, wanted, needed etc, but he does and he doesn't run when I get emotional or upset...he doesn't want me to leave but I can't deal with this much longer. Why do men think it's OK to be in 2 places at once? I couldn't live with myself, I had to leave my marriage because I had made the choice to see where the new relationship would go. I'm so afraid I won't be able to handle the loss.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
...
written by Learned a great lesson , July 05, 2007
I just want to say that as a wife who has been in both situations that men do not think like woman do. When my husband had a affair I was very hurt and also had a affair. I realized I didn't want to set this type of example for my children and for myself. I got myself help and and started to take responsibility for my action. I realized we both were very immature in the way we communicated to each other. We both had to apogize to our children and each other for the terrible choices we made. Today we have have mature and still learning and growing but it was a painful lesson.
Affairs are not about love their about pain and getting what you think your missing from someone eles is not the answer.






husband and
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by brb , July 06, 2007
When I first met him we were friends. I was going through a divorce and he was fighting to save his marriage. His wife had cheated several times and belittled him and told him she did not love him, Destroyed his self worth. I am now so in love with this man after a few months. I am scared to death he is not going to leave her. We both feel like we were meant for each other. How long should I wait to see if he does leave? He says she may attempt to hurt herself or flip out and end up back in the hospital and he would feel guilty. He is telling me he will leave in weeks..... Do I wait or get out now? I have not slept with him and wont till he has filed for his divorce, so he really does not have any reason to stay with me if he doesn't leave her, lol.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by written by shattered , July 09 , July 09, 2007
I left my husband to be with a married man after having an affair for 14yrs. He left and came looking for me we started to make a full time commitment together. I felt over the moon on this day 17.04.2003. Yes, I said, I must do what's right for me and my lover. I did so wrong for many years I felt that this was the only way I would find inner peace and to finally show my lover that he had my total heart and soul. Finalizing things was so much easier than I thought it would be, no fear at all. My lover was there to listen and learn from it - as he was going to go through it as well. Well so I thought , but needless to say that my lovers intentions were not the same at all. Just after a month he decided to go back to his wife, he decided this was all to hard and to much heart ache for everybody despite what I had done etc etc. He came back and forth, happy family holidays, secret meetings, children sports school activities, birthdays.... So our confrontations became pretty intense. I even tried to confront the wife to tell all as she knew nothing only to be slapped with a AVO.... he stood by his wife in court (being a police officer and all). Well I was shattered but my life continued with its ups and downs, back and forth scenarios, the continuous lies and broken promises to me and the to his very gullible/naive/denialable wife. I decided to end it after 17 years I cannot go on with this I was true to myself right from the start and I continued to be true to myself right to the end. I ended it 04.07.07 only to find out with in 24 hours that he is completely happy partying with his old friends and family celebrating a 18th birthday. So all I can say if your so call true love, soul mate says he is going to leave his wife do not believe a single word until he shows you the fabulous DIVORCE papers you so long for. No man that says I will leave, leaves. My world is completely shattered.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by dynababyyeah , July 16, 2007
I too am with a married man only 3 months, but I love him so much I want to break up, but find I can't. He says he will leave his wife when he gets some money after 20 years of marriage. He doesn't want to be broke, but she is fighting him she doesn't want him. But she also doesn't want anyone else to have him.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by MSJ , August 01, 2007
I met my MM (married man) 16 months ago, it was love at first sight, he said I was the love of his life. We were both married with children. I told my H I wanted a divorce that month, moved out two months later. My divorce was final last month.

MM finally told his wife in June of this year, she had suspected for awhile. They decided to divorce. Once they met with attorneys and he found out how much it would cost him, he started acting strange...

I just found out today that he has been "reconciling" with her for the past two weeks behind my back, she is willing to forgive him and wants him back.

He still says he loves me, wants to see me, etc., but keep it a secret from her again "for the time being"... but I wont do it. I just cant believe the type of man he turned out to be. I told him never again, we are over forever. All my friends warned me from the start, I wish I would have listened.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by Learned a great lesson , August 03, 2007
When my husband had affair, one thing he was not looking for was marriage, just a carefree relationship and when the other woman started to put demands on him he ended it!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Get real , August 09, 2007
Wow, these people who worry about "not being able to handle" life without a person who is only partly in their lives need to do more with their lives.

Mentor an impoverished child, work in a soup kitchen, volunteer in pediatric ICU... do something that shows you how people with real problems "handle" life and in doing so realize what a good person you can be on your own.

Spend time getting to know yourself and the good in you around other people, single people, doing the same thing and you may find yourself in a much better situation with a much more realistic outlook on the types of people that make good relationship fodder (e.g. the not-married-and-lying type).
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: -1
...
written by not hungry , August 18, 2007
three years... same old lines, "Me and my wife are roommates, I do everything alone, and I feel so lonely, but I want to be there for my child." Or, "I think this time we are headed for a separation." Or the king of lines, "Maybe, things will be different for us someday." Well, needless to say, finally, I have been weening myself off of him. The repeat patterns and inconsistencies have been much to blatant to ignore. Every woman involved with a married man should read the book "MY LOVER IS A LIAR". It is helping me to cut it off. I've stopped meeting him, and I've cut sex off completely. Now I'm staying busy, and letting the answer machine get his calls. The busier I keep myself the happier and more satisfied I feel. Like a hunter on a mission he is turning his charm up full throttle now, but lesson well learned girls, I'm not falling for it anymore. I realize he is married, he is a liar therefore he isn't someone I trust my precious future with. I deserve better. Hope all of you settling for the crumbs of someone else's meal will wake up and try a more fulfilling meal. Best of luck and self love to you all.
"the definition of insanity is doing the same wrong thing over and over again"
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
...
written by sick of it , September 02, 2007
I feel so stuck in a dark deep whole. I have been married for 6 years and having an affair with a married man for 4 years. He has been married 12 years, we both have 2 children all under the age of 10! We have fallen deeply in love, We have grown to be friends, lovers, etc. Neither of us want to split up our families for the sake of the children. WE both would love a peaceful way out of both of our marriages and hope to be together one day. Even though I know better and I know it is all a bunch of BS I continue to live a life like this. Every day gets harder when we are both at home and can not talk or can not see each other, it is hard to be away from the one you love, yet I am not ready to leave my husband and I know he is not ready to leave his wife either, even though he gives me the same ol lines everyone says they say! I know I deserve better, I was raised much better than this, but what is wrong with me? Neither of our spouses are bad people I just think we both fell out of love with them. I know if we were both single we would be the best for each other but that is not the case, I feel like a drug addict because I don't know how to let him go and move on with my life.. thank you NOT HUNGRY for the advice on the book to read. I need help seriously because I the more I try to stay away from him the more time I spend with him, its so hard being in love with someone you can't have!
My life is just falling apart in front of my face.....
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by RTP , September 05, 2007
I met a MM (Married Man) two years ago and at the time I was married as well. We built a long distance relationship and truth being told I was very unhappy in my marriage and per his statements he was as well. He perused me aggressively and we had a rare and truthful courtship being very open about everything and we are about to be married in three days. I feel like I'd been waiting for him all my life and we have been like best friends and accomplished a lot since our divorces we finalized as a couple. Now, I'm not saying this will happen for everyone. I just feel like in our case we wanted something, neither of our spouses knew how to give and it (Time, Attention, Sex, Friendship, Encouragement) was all we were missing in order to be happy. We had a lot of things in common and we're mirror images of one another in regards to personality and ambition, etc. I give him what he needs and I've never been more satisfied in my life this is year three and it's still GGGGREAT!!!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by nelisha , September 08, 2007
I have been involved with a married man for almost a year. He states that he is going to live his wife as he isn't in love with her.He says that they do not have a sex life and they sleep in separate beds. He says the main reason why he stays is for the kids and as soon as he get his finances in order he is going to leave her.
I am tried of hearing his bs and I have made a decision to leave.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Left in Ashes... , September 18, 2007
I too met a married man that completely swept me off of my feet and I fell completely in love with him. I know she knows and every time I see her its nothing but a cold stare. I agree with being addicted to him. One day soon he'll realize that one of us is going to have to go and inside I don't want it to be me. The only bad thing about it is that I found out yesterday that I am pregnant with his child. Now what am I supposed to do? He's already got two girls with his wife and it kills me to tell him because I know that my child will never have a father like those two girls have. But really after reading all of these posts it really makes me feel better that I am not in the same boat and if he truly loves me then he will come for me. Not because I have his child.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Anonymous , September 30, 2007
The MM and I were friends for about 10 years. I had a BF whom I loved. I was 12 years into our relationship before I started "dating" the MM. About a year into our affair, my BF and I broke up (nothing to do with the MM). The MM and I.. I feel as if he was/is my best friend. I could tell him anything... when things were rough in my life, he was always there to listen and give advice and encouragement.
We were best friends... he told me the problems he had with the wife- he said she wasn't a bad wife but he doesn't feel that she loves/wants him, where as I did. She is a good mother to their 2 kids (6 and smilies/cool.gif.. but he knows his marriage is lacking something and that was where I came in. I made him feel good about himself, where she always puts him down. I know I only know what he's telling me, but I cannot explain how happy I am to be with this guy. He has always told me he does not intend to leave his wife and kids, but if he wasn't already married he thinks we would be great together.
Three years into this relationship (and 2 out of the one my BF and I had), I find myself wanting more and more. There was nothing to stop me from loving him. Now he is afraid and I can feel him weaning me. He has said that he will always be there for me no matter what- sex or no sex- that we wer friends first and we will always be friends first. He said our friendship means more to him than the sexual part of our relationship. He says I scare him when I call and say "I want to see you" (I know when the weekends come around, I don't get to see him,so sometimes on Friday nights I want to see him before he has to go home). I don't know whether his wife knows or suspects anything (he says don't be surprised if she already knows).. we've never had a complete relationship, I've never spent one night with him, we've always spent time either in his office or in the car, when we're in public we're in the "friend" mode unless it's somewhere where he will not have the chance to be seen by anyone he knows, but it's tough because he is a police officer whom a lot of people know.
Now I feel like he is weaning me and I don't know what to do. He has said that nothing I can do will make me lose him... but now I am still trying to understand that he only means as a friend.
I really really don't know what to do. No other guy can compare to him, but I find myself waiting waiting waiting all the time, and I subconsciously block every guy that comes along, good or bad. I am tired of weekends spent alone, tired of always waiting for him to call, tired of feeling lonely, but we've been friends for so long that I am afraid to lose him. I feel like he knows everything about me, knows everything I went through (when I broke up with my ex, I sold our house, our business, I took on a new profession, so I went through some major life changes). I really am afraid to lose him, but even as I type this blog, it really does seem that this MM and I don't even have anything close to a relationship. And now I feel so sad.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by not there yet , November 02, 2007
Having read everything you all have to say... I hear what you are saying, I heed your advice, but I am simply unable to move on from my addiction. I have loved this man for years, we have been involved for 3 years. I ended my marriage because I didn't want to be cheating on him, but he is still married and living in the same house as his wife! How does one get past this??
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by beenthruitall , November 09, 2007
I think that we all are also afraid of being alone. I know I am.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Luvnfall , November 18, 2007
What kind of outcome will I face with a MM that has 3 kids under 10? We work together, & after 9 months started a nonsexual relationship. We go to dinner/movies when possible. I was looking for companionship because my husband works out of town a lot. He has cheated on his wife several times in the past 14 years. I was not looking for love, but we have such great chemistry & conversation! I'm scared to death that I will fall into the same trap as the following blogs. What can I do, to keep my emotions under control? He claims that he wants to get his ducks in a row & he does not want to involve me in his issue?
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Replica , November 24, 2007
Well... I have to say that I am have been involved in an affair for the last 5 months... I was hoping that it would only be a fling... but, this man pursues me... calls me... cries... tells me that he is so in love with me... and he has been married now for 20 years. He says that he can't file for divorce because it would leave him broke... since he won't be able to afford paying for his "stay-at-home" wife's alimony and three kids.... I have thrown him out of my apartment... I have broken up with him about 10 times... and he still begs... cries... and again says that he cannot leave me because he is so in love with me. He says that he admires my independence... I have told him that I do not see him ever leaving his wife because he is a weak man... and that I do not see myself having a future with him. He is a very kind, and caring person... his attitude is very genuine... which is why I went out with him. According to him, he engaged in this affair because his wife had neglected him love, affection, understanding and sex. I called the wife and told her that her husband was having an affair with me... and I told her the reasons why he had told he engaged in the affair... his wife agreed and said that for years her husband had been telling her that he was going to find another woman if she continued to refuse to have intimate relationships with him. She told me that her husband had not been lying to me, and that she had been very stupid for many years for not having had paid attention to her husband's needs. While many affairs may occur... I may be stupid for having had engaged in one... but, something about him made me just try to understand him. But, now... even though the wife admitted to her mistakes... she still won't leave him... because she is afraid to be alone... since she does not work... and the marriage brings financial security for her.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by finally , December 06, 2007
I finally broke up with my MM and I can't say how relieved I am. Deep down inside I always felt it was a mistake. Oh, we spent great time together of course, better than a real relationship actually is, just at the beginning. He said he loved me, he and his wife are roommates, still can not leave because of child and does not want to hurt anyone... I said I loved him and do not expect anything from him and support him anytime whatever... The problem is, how much I loved him does not matter at one point I too developed an attachment, or at least my inner soul tends to do. and I knew it was simply impossible with the man already attached to someone somewhere else. Things do not go as it starts. Feelings change, than it is time to make the final decision, without delay.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by hopeless , December 13, 2007
I have been in a relationship with a married man for almost 4 years now. I met him shortly after my husband passed away. He was someone who made me smile and someone I could communicate with, and made me feel alive again. We lived 1200 miles apart and I never thought a relationship would have developed. He knew I lost my husband a short time ago and maybe he took advantage of my clouded judgment at the time. We started seeing each other a few times a month. He had excuses for everything when I couldn't get a hold of him. When I confronted him as to whether or not he was married, he stated he was separated and going through a divorce. I bought all the lies and BS for a yr till I was able to really see what he was up to. He was building a brand new home with his wife. I confronted him and thats when he said he was in fact married but was planning on leaving her. I bought it again. At this point I had fallen in love with him. Couldn't stand the thought of not having him in my life. I decided to move to the same state, he agreed to separate. He finally did for about 3-4 months. I still didn't trust him and did some investigating. He was seeing other woman as well as leading his wife on that he wanted to get back together with her. I called the woman as well as the wife, as we were all being snowed and I felt he needed to be put in his place. I left him, she took him back. months past and we started communicating again, and next thing you know we were back together. He again left his wife. The cycle plays out over the years several times. same thing different day. He leaves her to be with me, he goes back to her. I am back with him again and he is still with her. He has all the same excuses, he can't leave the family owned business. If he divorces his parents with disown him. Its just excuses. I know I deserve better, but I just can't shake him. He has his cake and eat it too. Wife, family, career and money, with me on the side. I can only hope someday I will become strong enough to send him on his way for good. One thing I do want to say is that I am more miserable being with him than being alone. Something to consider.....
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by In the same boat , December 19, 2007
I have been with my married man for about 4 years. We have a child together. His wife found out about the child one year ago. For the past year he has been telling me he is going to leave. (He has children with her also). I made him promise almost everyday that he was going to go through with it. When it came down to the day he was supposed to leave he told me it was a lot harder than he thought it would be and that he could not do it. I then told him I couldn't keep doing this that I think my very sanity is at stake some days. Of course now we are back to talking again. Only talking but I'm afraid we are going to end up back where we started. And I know this sounds naive but I know he loves me with all his heart. His family (who I've gotten to know) tells me this also and says that he's never been happy with his wife. That they got married because she was pregnant. He tells me that he knows he is going to eventually leave her he just can't say when. He doesn't want to make anymore promises to me as he knows he devastated me. So now I find myself wanting to do something to break them up. Of course calling her is completely out of the question so anyone have any advice. Keep in mind I know that some will say I'm getting what I deserve and that I shouldn't want him if he can't leave on his own. I know all this so don't waste your breath. I would like real advice. Thanks in advance. smilies/grin.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by over it , December 23, 2007
I wasted 2 years of my life with a married man. It began as an motional affair and he initiated making it physical. Could have said no but I was already in love with him. I thought it meant something. After 3 months his wife found out. I thought she'd kick him out but he was grateful she didn't. He still however continued to seek me out for emotional support! I told him it was over and we didn't speak for another 3 months. At the end of that time I was feeling better and against my better judgment called him up to see how he was doing. Well I've paid the price for that phone call. The affair resumed and 2 months later he moved out into a house he'd bought as an investment a while back. He spent almost every night with me for nearly 2 months and then one day up and pushed me out of his life to be with his wife again (their 18 year anniversary and xmas were coming up). Between January and April of this year he swung back and forth between us, a few weeks with her then a few with me, while still living in his bachelor pad. The last time he dumped me to go back to her I completely flipped out and we had this massive fight. I realized the whole thing had made me feel really violated. I was a mess of emotions, guilty about his ex and my part, hurt, untrusting, exhausted, angry. I felt victimized although I knew I put myself in that position. It ended between us although there was still contact from time to time. She went away for a few weeks and he was on my doorstep through that time saying he didn't know if he really wanted to be with her but didn't want to be alone. Big bloody red flag that comment was. I felt bruised and used again because the minute she came back he was all back to happy families again.
Well for 6 months he was there pretending to try and make it work, while still seeking me out for emotional support.
He finally left her again 3 months ago and came to me saying I was his angel, best friend, I'd set him free and he'd never given himself a real chance with me and this time would be different.
Thing is, I was only allowed to see a couple of evenings through the week and we'd have Friday nights together for the first 2 months but slowly my time became more restricted. I wasn't ever invited to his house. And to top it off the only time he spent with his children was in his marital home. He'd take them out for dinner 3 nights a week then go back to their house and hang out with them and his ex till about 10pm.
So he left her without really leaving, and had me on the side with promises of commitment but reasons why he wasn't ready yet and I woke up one day last week and thought, what the hell is going on and what was I ever doing with this man.
Why would he ever make a full commitment to me when I've shown all this time I'm willing to take scraps and always have him back anyway. I have never been so angry as I have been throughout this farce that can't even be called a relationship. At myself for even getting involved in the first place and for contributing to another woman's misery, and at him for continually violating the trust I tried to put in him.
I went completely against my morals entering this affair. That was a rule I've never before broken in my life (I'm 35) And now I fully understand why.
I'm coming out of the haze finally of my addiction to this man. All I ever wanted to do was love him and have him love me back, but in allowing the situation to continue over these years I gave him license to become a selfish, hurtful bastard who thinks nothing of destroying 2 good women.

Take this as a warning, any of you considering or in an affair.
Don't let your need for love fool you into the same situation. Don't beg and plead and wait or believe their lives. If they are really men and they love you the way they say,they'll create a relationship with you properly. Walk away immediately. Have absolutely no contact. Don't think you'll change anything by trying to love them or making them dependent on you.
Just get the hell out of there.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
...
written by Self Love , December 29, 2007
I met my MM 6 months ago (he had separated from his wife)and things were great. I thought that I would take things slow in this situation and give him plenty of time to develop his feelings for me. After about 4 months things got to a point where nothing physical had happened but the desire was clearly there and I asked him what was happening with our relationship. My MM told he me that he had gone back to his wife for the sake of the children, but he did not love her. I was in love with him and agreed that I would keep seeing him and that we would be 'friends' as I did not know if I could take things further than that.

For 2 months we continued on as 'friends' although it is clear that we want to be more. I finally realized that I was very unhappy and I could not continue on and sought professional help. After some reflection I got up the courage to confront my MM. I told my MM what my feelings were, what I wanted from him and what I needed and I asked him to make a commitment to me to meet that and to make a choice between me and his wife. I said that if it he chose his wife then I was not going to see him anymore. I am waiting on his response now.

I understand and feel exactly the same emotions everyone has described above that you simply can't live without him and the pain of losing him is so great. Despite what I have done I still feel that. However, I also feel a sense of strength and of control which I did not have before which has been positive.

The professional made me reflect on a few important issues that helped me in deciding to do it and may help you:

1. If he had told you that he has feelings for you and you do, then you have the RIGHT to tell him what your needs are and what you want and to ask him to step up and meet those needs. If he is not willing to do that you are entitled to leave as you will not be happy;

2. If this man loves you then he should be honoring you and treating you with the value and respect that you deserve and being honest and transparent with you;

3. Think about whether you are really happy with the situation and if it is what you really want, if it is not you have to try and change it;

4. If you confront him voice ALL of your needs and wants. Before doing it write it all out and practice a few times. Do it in private. After doing it cut off physical contact with him for a few weeks while he decides (phone calls are alright);

5. Make sure that you have an active life outside of the situation or work on building one, this will assist in moving on if needed;

5. Although the pain would be great if it does not work out (as the love is very intense and passionate), that can be found again in time.


report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by over it , January 02, 2008
He's gone back to her.Again.While still retaining the freedom of his second home and still pretending to care about me and wanting to know what I'm doing etc and still offering me some hope for the future and telling me she's his ex and nothings going on between them. Men like this never change.

report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by content , January 13, 2008
Its surprising how many of us have affairs with married men when if we were the wife of that cheating bastard we would be so hurt. I don't know how we do it. I don't know why but I hope I find someone like him for myself minus the lying and cheating part.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by feta , January 14, 2008
I sympathize with all the above. I have the maybe unusual situation of still being in love with my husband even though we have been separated for 15 years and for 10 yrs he's been cohabiting with someone else. I've never had another relationship since. We have not divorced neither of us has wanted to, though we haven't been intimate, we are best friends, tell each other everything. His relationship with girlfriend is not a happy one, he says he still loves me, that he's going to leave her, excuses etc but its not happening. He is too weak to tell her its over and doesn't want to have to take the blame or guilt as she's threatened suicide. She has no knowledge we still communicate daily. They have no children, though we have. We met in our teens, now approaching fifties and are both still unhappy. Genuine advice welcomed,I CANT just move on... there will never be anyone else for me....
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by tz , January 16, 2008
I met a man in oct 07 and he took me on a wonderful date, told me he wasn't married etc. I then received a call a month later from him telling me he had been lying and was married but going to believe his wife. He sounded a little funny on the phone the other day, so I knew he was backing out. He said he had tried to tell his wife he was leaving, but all she did was cry. I decided to call his wife. He was lying to me all along. His wife said he had never mentioned leaving and told her always how wonderful it was to go home every day. I am hurt and angry. I even wonder what will I do if he calls now. He said He Loves His wife over the phone in front of her. I thought he was going to be the love of my life. She also asked me if I knew he was a recovering shooter of meth. I can't believe it, but do. He portrayed himself as a great dad, honest, happy, fun, professional person. WOW!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by looking inward , January 17, 2008
What help me was to get therapy and I also got involved with 12 step programs. A book which also help was called Addicted to Adultery which is a true story on a high profile couple. My story is a happy ending my husband and I have been married 40 years. I hope this helps.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by wanna get over it , January 17, 2008
Over it, you made some strong points. It is my need to be wanted and feel good about myself that I allowed this behavior. I shouldn't care what happens to them as a couple. I would like to have someone, but need to remember I still have pride and respect for myself. I am a good mom, work full time, pay my own bills, am average looking. Why is it so easy for me to settle for losers?
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by over it , January 19, 2008
I finally woke up and the betrayal I feel is that he was about to suck me right back along for another ride of keeping me in the wings while being back with his wife. Or partly back there as he still lives in his bachelor pad that neither of us are welcome at. He cut off phone conversations to avoid questions and hysterics from me but was texting me every day to see how I was etc. His lies this time were so completely blatant that I wonder if he has one ounce of respect for me at all. This man is really a stranger to me and I have no way to tell what was real and what wasn't. Except for the physical passion. That's the only thing that wasn't a lie but it's not much really.
I had this huge need to be validated, to have all the good things he said and offered be the truth. I never wanted to be anyones affair. Ever. I needed him to become the loving partner that he promised to be because I couldn't deal with feeling like some stupid needy girl who was being used for sex.
I realize I was looking in the wrong direction and I should have validated myself by never getting involved in the first place.
My heart is broken because I believed I truly loved him and my fantasy has been shattered. All his "we're soulmates, you've set me free, you're the best thing that's happened in my life" were sweet lies because when he goes back to her he can be nasty and imply that it's none of my business and I should basically rack off and leave him alone, only not go far enough that he can't reel me back in for future use.
I'm glad I'm not his wife or bound to him by children. That would have been asking for a lifetime of hell.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by wanna get over it , January 23, 2008
The sexual part was important. It was not only good, but after I found out he was married I didn't want to feel used either. I still don't know why I would like him to call and check on me, and give me a reason. We will and have to get through this as difficult as it may be. I find myself being "easy" sometimes because I want Mr. Right to be in my life. I will let his wife have him since she feels so imp. now. She can deal with the lies. He was working 7days here and 7days off at home 4hours away. He has moved to a new town, but will continue 7 on and 7 off. Maybe I am just one of the many. Right now I have to pray for him and his wife or I feel"hate". How can people just look you in the eye and be lying all along. I have a conscious. It also makes me angry he embarrassed me, but I have lived the last two weeks w/out him and someday will forget it.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by HELP , January 24, 2008
Got into a relationship with my MM 5 years ago when I was still married and he and i both fell head over heals in love. Well, about 6 months ago I left my husband because I knew how wrong I was, I couldn't live with the guilt anymore. Not only this, but I wanted to be with the MM. His wife has known since the beginning because we had been neighbors. Just last week he told me that he didn't want to be with me anymore and that he had to make the "decision". He changed his number and now I feel like I can't go on. I've thought of every possible way to talk to him but have no means of conversation since he changed his number. I have a 5 year old from my x-husband and am scared that I can't even be there for her because of the loss of him. How do I move on feeling unworthy of him... how after so long could he just walk away and feel nothing?
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Just so you know , January 28, 2008
While reading all these stories I feel so sad. Sad for me and sad for you. My MM sounds like all the rest, Damn, I thought this was different. It sounds like we need to take a long hard look in the mirror and love ourselves more. It wasn't until now that I felt used, lied to, stupid etc. We deserve better. Just so you know, even if he leaves you don't want him because if he will do it with you, he will do it to you. Stay strong pray for me and I you smilies/smiley.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by gettin over it , January 30, 2008
It has been three weeks now. I am almost thankful to hear that I didn't get caught up in this too long. I still want him to call, but I am just like "help", no way to communicate. Maybe this is for the best. We don't want to look desperate. I am with "Just so you know" that we do need to LOVE OURSELVES! You just remember how much that little 5 year old girl needs you!. That what I do. We need to stop wasting time on these jerks and give that attention to our kids. I can never get back the time with my 17 and 9 year old girls that I have wasted on men. This is great knowing we have a support team going. I will help any of you in any way I can. I too will pray for all of you and please pray for me. TZ
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by I'm the other woman too... , February 01, 2008
We are perfect for each other. We both know it. And what we both know is that he'll never leave her like he says he will. He's waiting for his kids to get older too. We're insane over each other, it so unbelievable how perfect we are for one another. He's selfish and weak. He expects me to put up with this when he won't put up with me having someone else. I'm trying to end it as well and it's very painful. I hate him for this, for being so weak. I'm beginning to hate her for having everything I want; a home, stability, him at night. She's never worked so she depends on him. As for myself, I am a single mother and I struggle every day to make a living, she- has it all without even trying. I hate my situation it's so devastating. I'm sorry that you all have to go through the same.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +4
...
written by tz , February 04, 2008
I can relate. We were perfect for each other too, I thought. We both loved to gamble a little, like "Journey" and the same music, loved to have fun etc. I still have never heard from him and now know I won't. It bothered me too when he would say how "his wife never had to want for anything, she always matched from head to toe, had a set of dishes for every occasion etc. I struggle worrying to just make ends meet. We need to remember we are "blessed". We have beautiful children, we are smart enough to work, and we have God. I went to church yesterday. It was a good start again. When I was messing around, I didn't feel worthy of enough to go to church doing what I was doing. We just need to know we are here to support each other, and I ask God to put someone special in my life when he is ready. I do admit it is lonely. I am only 36 and I want someone in my life. I will pray for you, and please pray for me too.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by stupid girl , February 05, 2008
I am so stupid. I have been seeing a guy for 14mnths now. He isn't married and i am so in love with him. He has now said for the first time that he will leave her for me. He is meant to be moving into a new house with her and says he will move with her and then walk out.He says they have neighbors are neighbors from hell and is scared that they will threaten his girlfriend if he is not there. Why is he doing this. Why doesn't he just split with her now and live with her until they sell the house. I love him so much and feel i can't go on without him. I have tried breaking away several times.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Another one endlessly in love , February 06, 2008
I read these and see myself. I know I should run, I have told him the same. I know we are playing with fire, I know it's going to really hurt in the end... yet I make every effort to be with him, to see him. Why am I so STUPID!?!?!?!?
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by tz , February 08, 2008
I know what it is. We don't think highly of ourselves and that we can do better. The guy I was seeing for 4months that was married and was going to leave his wife has never called again since I called his wife. By the way all the promises he was making to me and complaints about his wife were lies. She told me he never was going to leave and was happy. He then got on the phone and said he loved her. He used me. It is a game they can have both. I am getting a little better, but glad I was only in a few months. We need to stay strong ladies!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by OPTIMISTIC , February 11, 2008
I have a bit of a peculiar situation, me and my guy have been friends for over 8 years, I mean strictly platonic. I have met his girlfriend (of 2 years) as he has met my fiance (of 6 years) on plenty of occasions. We are best friends, up until about 2 months ago; I suddenly had some sort of epiphany about him and our relationship. I confessed to him what I felt, for him to tell me he has been in love with me the entire time we've known each other, he just didn't want to exposed himself to me since I've never given him any indication of interest in him other than friendship.

Well being that we've been so much of good friends of course I love him to death as any woman would her best girlfriend. Now it's a total different kind of love, I'm completely in love with him; he has told me the same and has even gotten so emotional to the brink of tears while expressing his feelings towards me. Obviously, we are now sleeping together which makes matters even worse.

I have indicated that I will leave my fiance (no kids, no attachments, mutual friends to deal with) if he were to leave his girlfriend (their parents are close, their families attend the same church so it's inevitable they will have contact for a very long time). He has not yet said if he is willing to leave her for me yet, he says he isn't quite sure if he wants to completely jump.

My thought is, we've known each other for over 8 years, longer than both of our relationships, it should be an easy pick, unless he doesn't feel as strongly as he suggests. I'm not sure if I'm being too premature on making a leap for him or if he will eventually come around and maybe I should just give him a few months to get his bearings...

I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE INPUT FROM ANYONE THAT MAY HAVE A BIT OF INSIGHT ON WHAT I SHOULD DO, OR WHAT IT IS THAT HE'S REALLY SAYING BETWEEN THE LINES.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by TishyPoo , February 11, 2008
OPTIMISTIC, sounds to me like he is scared. Scared of what everyone will think, of his reputation, etc. You need to back off right away before things get out of hand. I'm not saying to break it off, just back off for awhile and tell him why. If he is truly in love with you, he will come for you. It will hurt like hell for awhile but if it's love, it will work out.

~If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.~

Albert Einstein
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Turn off your Lights no One is , February 12, 2008
Dear Optimistic,
A man's point of view. You have to be kidding me. Your letter is like all the other women who have had affairs. First you are involved with a man, a fiance, for over 6 years and you are not married yet? That says a lot about your relationship with him and that you are not serious about each other. He is getting the milk for free without buying the cow. Your relationship with your long time friend has just slipped into the same situation as your 6 year relationship with your fiance. Your long time male friend just got laid and that's all there is to it. You are not going to make him change his mind because he does not love you in that way because if he did he would have jumped at the chance years ago. Here is my opinion. First Turn on your Lights (Intelligence) and look at all the clues because they are in front you. Reconsider your 6 year engagement and tell your male friend that it won't work with him. Sorry this is harsh but it is from a man's point and we look at things differently.

report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by tz , February 12, 2008
optomistic, I do relate with your situations in some ways. First of all I am glad neither of you are legally married or have kids. That will make it easier. I just got back with my husband after being divorced three years. I had seen other people and he had just began dating a lady the last couple of weeks. He had to break it off with her and felt bad for doing it let alone it had only been two weeks but they had been intimate. It is hard for a "normal" person to hurt someone else's feelings. Give him a little time, but let him no you will not wait too long. Reasonable time to me is not over a month. If he wants you bad enough he will. Do they live together? Do you live with you mate? It does take a little time to get your ducks in a row. Good luck. My husband and I have know each other for 14 years married 8 divorced 3 and lived together for a few years. Its hard to find someone you know so well. Trust Me. I have met a lot of "bad guys" in the last three years. A honest nice person is hard to find.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by get the clues , February 12, 2008
Dear Optimistic - Action speaks more than words!!!!! People who really love each other do not give excuses especially after all the years you have known him.

report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Sad lady , February 18, 2008
I have been reading everyone's comments and I can both appreciate and understand emotions on both sides. I am a married women who has been involved with a married man for the last 6 months. I think my situation is unique in the fact that I was married before to a man who cheated on me. It was one of the most hurtful things that I have ever been though. I eventually divorced my ex and he went on to marry the woman who he cheated with. This time, I am the cheater. I remarried about 5 years ago to a man, who I probably never should have married to begin with. 8 months ago, I found my high school boyfriend. We had not seen each other for over 20 years. We got together and it was like we were never apart. I have always loved this man and I truly believe he loves me. We both knew what we were doing was wrong, but it seemed so right. I have children and so does he. His children are almost out of high school and yes, we have talked about him leaving once his youngest child graduates from high school. Do I really think that this will happen, not really. Our affair ended as abruptly as it begin and I am sorry I ever found him again. I am sorry because I love someone that I think I may never really have and it reinforces how miserable I am in my current marriage. I do see my marriage coming to an end soon. However, when it comes to my MM, I feel as though his wife has told him in no uncertain terms that she would destroy him career wise if he ever left her. They have a very good life together in terms of status and income. So in essence he is a prisoner to his fears and financially stability, and until he decides to let go, he will never be free. We both are in our early forties, and I refuse to wait any longer for this man, who cannot or will not leave his situation. As time goes on, he will probably wind up being a bitter old man because of the decisions he chose to leave with. This is the only affair that I have ever had, and I would not allow myself to be put into another situation such as this one because again it is just too painful. I am in torment, praying for the day when I can get over this man. The sad part, is that his is probably involved in an affair also. In my humble opinion, all the hurt affairs cause, just are not worth the trouble or effort.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by kathyb , February 18, 2008
I am the wife of the married man who left me and my adult children!!! I was married to him for thirty five yrs... Please you other women think about the pain you cause... we have not been together for over six yrs... He just married her two months ago. My daughter has been sick and most of it has been caused by her dad leaving me and his family. By the way other women they have less than a one percent chance of making it through the long haul! Please think of his family ...ANN
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: -2
...
written by OPTIMISTIC STILL , February 21, 2008
I really appreciate the input from everyone (even you, Turn off your lights, no one is). As to the questions that were asked, yes my mate and I do live together, we have no children or ties in any way. And we have only been engaged for 1 year, and we have been together for 5 years all on my terms. My future love and his girlfriend do not live together, and neither of them have children. I should have mentioned that we don't live in the same state, I feel if he really didn't have feelings he would not make half of the efforts to see me, I mean on Valentine's Day he spent the entire day with his girlfriend, made some excuse, and drove from state to state to bring me flowers on my lunch break at work. And then drove back to her!

I do understand that he cannot just cut her loose, but I do feel if he was so happy with her, there wouldn't be any talk of us being together exclusively, getting married, having children, which he is constantly making references to "our future" (I have asked him to stop making references like that being that he is not making any moves towards it), but he continues to say things like "Where do you want to go on our honeymoon?" or "Next year this time, we'll be married, but it makes me so uneasy to pretend as if it's a snap of the fingers.

I have not completely expressed exactly how I feel, no where near as much as he opens up to me, I am completely in love with him, and I've said it, but I have not voiced to him the depth of my feelings (for fear of being hurt directly). I am getting fed up with the sneaking, the txt messages, the planning, the lying its all too much (I've resorted to a notebook of all my lies in case I'm every approached, sounds stupid but quite smart).

OMG, I'm so frustrated and its so agonizing to continue on like this. I guess its just not mean to be, but I'm still hoping.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Need man's point of view , February 21, 2008
Started talking to my first love again over 2 years ago. We're both married, although I'm separated from my husband. he says that he loves his wife but that he's still in love with me. We've only had sex once, over a year ago. I've broke it off several times with him and him with me. He doesn't promise anything and I no longer ask him to. We avoid seeing each other in person because the last time we did (sex over a year ago) things became very intense and confusing. I love him, it doesn't seem to go away regardless of how I try to forget him. We only talk a few times a week over the phone in the early a.m. hours. He tells me over and over again how very much he misses and loves me. What I need to know is...

We don't talk about our marriages. We talk about work, friends, our children, old times (high school days). We talk about "what if's" and "could have beens". What exactly could a man be getting out of this? Could he be bored or is he getting some kind of ego boost out of our early morning conversations? Can a man really love two women? Is he confused? I feel as if he doesn't love me enough to be with me but he doesn't love his wife enough to leave me alone. Can someone give an opinion? I welcome even harsh truthful opinions.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by Turn off your Lights no One i , February 22, 2008
First of all this is my point of view and I am a man and was involved with other women for many years.
My wife put up with my crap for over 4 years and that was 18 years ago. We just had our 40th and we are happy. Just a little background on me to let you know that I can speak on the subject and give some sage opinion to your post.
Dear Ms. Needs a Man point of View,
The man you speak to in the early morning hours is not in love with two women, he may or may not love his wife but that's NOT the issue. The issue is why would you even consider talking to a married man in this fashion when you know he is taken. He does not appear to be a good catch any way if he is talking to you. What is he getting out of this? His ego is building and eventually he take the step to continue his adulterous relationship with or without you. He is lacking balls at this time but he will, with your help, become just as I was...he'll baby steps and then he'll take the leap. Keep this in mind..he is calculating and knows what he is doing to your. Is he confused? Hell NO. He is not confused..he is setting you up into a long term relationship that will lead absolutely NOWHERE. He will lie to you at every turn. He will say things like: I don't love my wife, we aren't getting along, we don't sleep in the same bed, I can't wait till the kids are grown and out of high school, if I leave her she'll take me to the cleaners, etc, etc, etc, These are all lies. He holds the deck of cards and is giving you a losing hand. He has dealt himself a Royal Flush and is giving you three Aces. This will lead you to believe that you have a very good hand but the reality is, you don't. He will always up the price to play by stringing you along with a little lie here and a little lie there...these are all bluffs. Guess what? You'll stay in the game because you know that you can win but NOT really since he has the winning hand. I do feel sorry for you...because after I read your letter you'll stick with his game....and you won't even call his bluff...you'll just keep putting in your chips (that means: feeling, hopes, dreams, love, heart and even your soul). YOU WILL LOSE.
OPINION:
Tell the jerk not to call you again. Don't waste your time and effort. Mark my words he'll stop calling but you have to mean what you tell him. He knows you are weak and that's what he is counting on.

report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by Sad lady , February 22, 2008
Re: Need a man's point of view.....I can certainly understand how you feel, I too have the very same questions you have. Our situations sound almost the same. Same MO's. But as for me and my sanity, I cannot continue being in limbo with this man. I haven't heard from him in almost a month so maybe it is over for him as well. Meanwhile, I am trying to forget about him, not easy at all. smilies/cry.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by JUST A OPINION , February 22, 2008
MY FATHER HAD A LOT OF AFFAIRS AND AT MY DAD'S FUNERAL I MET A SISTER I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD. SHE TOLD ME THAT HER MOTHER WAS ALWAYS "AVAILABLE" TO MY DAD, EVEN THOUGH MY DAD AND HER LIVED IN A DIFFERENT STATES. WHEN MY OWN HUSBAND HAD AN AFFAIR I ASKED HIM WHY? HE TOLD ME THE SAME THING, SHE WAS "AVAILABLE". PEOPLE WHO HAVE AFFAIRS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES OR BLAME OTHER PEOPLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTION/SHORTCOMINGS... DON'T BE AVAILABLE.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by amI2timed , February 24, 2008
I became involved with MM (myself unhappily married 35 years)about 2 years ago. He showered me with attention, sweet talk, a special gift to remember in case it all fell through. For the first year it was wonderful and I was thoroughly happy and so was he. I KNEW it. We got caught and decided we could not ever be apart and were tired of the lying and were going to move in together to eventually get married. He even left home.
But I felt such remorse for hurting his wife (she was older)and I just felt it was so WRONG. I thought maybe I could get my husband to somehow show me the love I found with this other man. So I told him I couldn't do it. Within a week he went back home, but still wanted to see me as much as he could...he loved me so much, he was grateful for any time he could have with me. A month later he left again and asked me what I was going to do. He had given all the property to his wife and we had nothing even to get started on. I shared a business with my husband and had no outside income nor savings. I began to think of all the pain of a divorce from my husband and the dividing up of things...my husband made me feel like everyone would blame me. I clearly hesitated.
My MM may have given up. In my meantime he went to a bar and then is when I suspected he met someone, quite innocently perhaps at first, just to have fun with. He drives a truck and there were indications he took her on several long trips. Then I found some receipts for meals, regularly smelled perfume on him, less calling, wouldn't answer the phone at times, impatience, Levitra in his truck, lying about whereabouts...all the while still spending a lot of time with me in glorious activities... eating out, flying, afternoons together.
I felt like he decided to break it off with the other woman because he went back home and that maybe was a good excuse to tell her, but I think he still saw her for 2 more months. He said his wife asked him if he planned to quit seeing me and he said NO and then he left again, asking me again what I was going to do and when I could be with him...this time I said I would and went to a job interview. He asked me to tell my husband I was leaving with him...that it was hard, but we had to go through it. BUT then 2 days later said maybe he wouldn't be leaving because of his daughter (54 years old) and grandchildren (in their twenties). So he would cry when we talked about what he was going to do, saying he didn't want to leave me and that he was torn. I felt like for the next 2 months he gave up the other girl he was seeing and we had 2 great months of love and caring.
But we had some serious conversations about whether he could be with me permanently and he was just so torn. I think the pressure of financial, social and moral implications was more than he could do.
I knew the day he started up with the other woman yet again maybe after he decided that he did not want to be with me.
I confronted him many times about this other woman, but he vehemently denies it. Sometimes I wonder if I could be wrong, but I don't think so. He is so wonderful to me otherwise that he makes up for things and I certainly do enjoy my time with him. But I still see that it could have been so much more, if I hadn't had this backdrop of his seeing someone else. Why is he doing this to me? I couldn't do it to him! He has gone home now for the THIRD time but still wants to see me, but I feel he is still balancing time between me and this other woman (not his wife). I have thoughts of telling him it's over...but I have no real proof he is seeing someone else. And then I wonder what my life will be like after that. At least now I do have someone to have some fun and feelings of love for. I think the other woman knows about me and I worry if he tells her I am just a bother, that he really loves her.
You will all say I am a fool to be bothering with him, but my life has been so happy and fun-filled with him, despite my suspicions. I just feel that I made a horrible decision for hesitating to be with this man when he wanted me and it hurt him so much that he felt I didn't really love him or I would have committed to him right away.
My husband involves himself in his work and our only interaction is in our business. His attention has never been on me, hence my attraction to this man. I have tried to make things better with my husband but he just does not respond with appreciation and gratitude that I crave.
I keep hanging on to the MM in hopes that he is just sowing his wild oats because he couldn't have the ONE he WANTED and that eventually he will leave her off and be committed to me. I have thought so many times in the past year of this, that he was going to finally be true to me, but after it appeared he went back with her these last 3 months, I am so scared I have lost him. ...but he still wants to see me.
Does anyone understand?
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by viviana , February 26, 2008
I was involved with a MM who stated he was just as unhappy as I was in my marriage, but he said it would just take time, because he had so much to loose. Three days before he completely cut off communication with me, he told me how much he loved me, then I never got a call back. Realizing I had been used was harder than loosing him, because the man I loved did not exist. Now I wished I had called his wife, but she probably knows that he cheats on her, and is willing to put up with it because of their attachment. He used to tell me that he had never cheated on her before, but I never believed him, but also never told him that, because "his word was his bond." The red flags were there all the time, the only thing I miss is that I did not have a chance to tell him what a loser I think he really is, but I will move on with my life, and he is stuck in his.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by karter , March 09, 2008
Been with a married man for 22 yrs. They never, ever leave. Not after 3 months, when something was going to pop any day, thru kids growing up, thru kids moving out. They don't leave--no matter how deep the love, how perfect a soul mate, how deep the attraction nor how impeccable the sex--they don't leave.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by zmailer , March 10, 2008
I met my wife when I was 21. After 12 weeks of dating we married. A year later we had a child. We then had 16 years of happiness and a wonderful life together. I never cheated on he