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Why does my boyfriend feel the need to lie
I've been dating a man a few years younger than I for the passed four months. He is very outgoing, loves to work, and meet new people. My friends enjoy his company, which is very rare.

Besides sex, all we seem to do is argue over the littlest things. He'll either get upset with me for obtuse reasons or I'll bring up something he is uncomfortable talking about which leads to the arguments.

My boyfriend compulsively lies about the most feebleminded things. Such as things he claims to have accomplished in his life and people he knew. His friends, family, and prior girlfriends know exactly how he is.

Once, I've actually convinced him to confess his distortion of the truth but now he denies a few of the things he confessed to. Even though he buys me things and treats me like a lady, he always feels the need to exaggerate the truth.

Why does he feel the need to lie to someone he claims to love and is there anyway to talk to him about these things without making him upset and walk away?

Response:

Great questions…

To begin with, compulsive lying, like any other addictive behavior, is rewarding. For compulsive liars, lying feels good; it provides sense of comfort and pleasure (see, compulsive lying).

And like any other addictive behavior, addicts deny the behavior in question or that it is problematic. This lack of self-awareness, or lack of acceptance, makes it possible for the addictive behavior to continue. But your boyfriend's inability to acknowledge the problem also makes it more difficult to resolve. Most people get defensive when you point out their lies (see, pointing out the truth), but compulsive liars often become extremely defensive when the issue gets raised.

Simply stated, changing a compulsive liar is not easy and it takes tremendous time and effort (see, changing a compulsive liar).

And, if all you and your boyfriend do is argue over the smallest of issues – these arguments are probably not about little things at all, but something much larger: Power, Liking and Control (see, relationship dynamics).

In fact, most arguments usually involve one or more of the following issues:
  • Do you genuinely like each other?
  • Do you have respect for each other?
  • Do you constantly fight each other for control?
If you address these issues head on, you may save you and your boyfriend from a lot of wasted time and agony. Most couples avoid dealing with these issues but they rarely go away on their own.

Finally, there is often little point in confronting a compulsive liar.

If someone is in denial about an issue, trying to point it out often leaves both parties feeling upset and frustrated.
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been there, still there
written by Guest , June 21, 2006
Run--as fast as you can--away from this loser. I have been with a cl for over 38 yrs. My life is hell-never, ever do I know what to believe. And when I discovered yet another affair, more lies. I'm trying to get stronger so I can leave, but am so ground down, I don't know if I can.
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oh my!!!
written by Guest , July 13, 2006
I met this guy and we started dating. I feel like an idiot because I should have seen all the signs in the beginning. Now I live with him. I love him dearly. He has treated me with more respect and affection than you can ever even imagine. Slowly I have found out the truth about him and still not so certain if the "truth" is the truth. I have never dealt with a situation like this in my life. I have heard of people going through it and never imagined myself in such a situation. Mostly I am beyond embarrassed of the situation. Which brings me to why I don't talk to my family about him for the sole fact that about 98% of the things I told them about him were false. I lied to them and didn't realize it until later. Now I have to deal with that situation. I have an extremely judgmental family. The craziest thing about it all is that I am signed up for college here in the fall and it actually goes through my mind to stick it out until my classes are over in the spring and I can leave him. I feel almost like I am waisting a part of my life because I am so uncertain that I can ever trust him with anything. It's a web... a complete mess!!! I don't know how the heck I got so lucky to have to deal with this situation (sarcasm). He has admitted to lies, but I honestly think he lies to cover up the lies. Right now I am living under circumstances that don't fit me... never have and it's uncomfortable. He is so elaborate with his stories. It's insane. When I call him up on it, he walks away and gets so angry... then coming back to me apologizing for lying and saying he wants to start over with a clean slate... and then professes his deep love for me. I love him so very much, but when do you call it quits. I don't have anyone to turn to. I am living hours from home and had to leave home after a divorce because my family became so controlling of my life and trying to make all decisions about my life for me. What do you do when you feel like you have no one you can turn to? I don't even know anyone here at the moment. This is so insane! I do know that he has ADHD and depression. Is this a factor to all of this? He has a counselor. Should I attempt to speak to his counselor without him knowing it. I have met him and my boyfriend has given his counselor permission to speak with me. Do you think he is really trying to make right? This is the most confusing, uncomfortable thing I have ever had to deal with in my life... without a doubt.
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Can relate
written by Guest , July 13, 2006
I've just read your post. I have just discovered my boyfriend of 8 months has been telling me whoppers - it's not the main lies, it's all the little ones that went with it over the months, crying over a man he claimed to be his famous father on tv, and sooo much. I feel really silly - but am trying to stick by him and let him know he didn't need to do it - I always loved him for just being him. The trouble now is I am wondering what else he has lie about, and if a future is always going to be one of my constant guessing about him being honest. He says he recognizes his problem and has been doing it all his life, and is now seeking counseling. Trouble is I don't know if he's just saying it to keep me happy, or whether he's lying (!) All I know is that I feel cheated because I was always honest and open. Which was something he felt was so important - the number of hours he questioned me over things!
It's funny, I read your story and it sounds like him - treats me so well in many ways. I think you must feel like I do - that he can't really think much of you? let alone respect you?
Thanks for posting, was good to relate.
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Can Relate
written by Guest , July 15, 2006
Dearest, I so totally understand what you are going through. Tears are streaming down my face for the both of us. Be thankful that you found out before you walked down the isle with him. I dated for 2.5 years to this most wonderful, most respectful guy. He treated me like a lady. We got married 6 months ago. 3 days later he had to go on g'vt business for 4 months, so technically we have only been living together for 2 months. We will be moving for annulment because of all the lies. He lies about every little thing. He never cease to profess his undying love etc. He is great with words. He is involved with so many other respectful women. I recently got a letter that he wrote to someone while away. It was the exact romantic letter he wrote to me, his wife. He loves to tell women that he has a certain chemical imbalance towards them... how they have impacted his life.. Lies upon lies. Now he says he has a sex addiction problem, however "it is under control." C-liars are usually bipolar. They try to make it seem as though you are the crazy one, that you are hallucinating. DON'T fall into this trap! Since they are so great with rhetoric, you may begin to second guess yourself. Be very careful. To this moment I just can't believe it is happening to me. MY life feels like a soap opera. Never a dull moment. And like you, I cannot turn to any family members. My family has been online.. This is where I get comfort. Two nights ago my husband walked me home from campus at about 11.30pm. He had just finished work and did not get the chance to ran and use a classroom for his sexual pleasures (he sleeps with other students on campus). It was the night of thunderstorms, etc. As soon as he made sure I was home safe he said that he had to go back on campus to his locker for a shoe-lace... I will stop there. Again, be thankful that you recognized the problem early. Get out. IF he will not go to counseling or seek professional help get out. Since cl do not consider themselves as cl, our case in convincing them is almost helpless. I wish you well. Take care.
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This is me.
written by Guest , July 20, 2006
I found out yesterday my boyfriend of 4 months, who supposedly "loves me more than any woman he's ever loved" is a compulsive liar. I found out through his parents, who have known this about him since he was little. He lies about everything, from going to college, to have lots of money, to getting job offers. EVERYTHING. I'm the only one who FINALLY convinced his parents how serious it is. I don't know what to do. I love him more than anything. Not for the lies, but I KNOW HIS HEART. I do. Call me crazy, but I know he truly loves me. Everyone's telling me to run. How do you run? Somebody tell me how to run away from someone I love so much???? In two weeks, he's moving to FL and we live in IL. I was originally going to go with him, until I found out about all the lies. He's running. We've caught him and he's running to escape it. He always says our relationship is DRAMA, but it's because he cannot tell the truth about anything!!! Deep down, I still trust the fun-loving, romantic, sweet guy who I fell in love with. I can't sleep. I can't eat. I feel so powerless and worthless. Now, why would I want to be with someone who makes me feel that way? I don't know. I can't answer those questions. Last night, after his parents confronted him about the lies, it was my turn. I had already passes the anger stage, and now I'm just sad. He admitted everything, and told me that even his first love never compared to the love we had. I held him, and we both cried. Part of him wants to go to FL, part of him wants to stay. I know that it has to be over. I just don't know HOW.

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is my ex a compulsive liar
written by Guest , July 24, 2006
I got dumped a month ago by my girlfriend. We were together for 9 months and I was totally committed to her. I got to a stage where I accepted my loss. I got a bit drunk the other night and realized that i am still struggling to deal with it. Anyway, I ended up checking her emails as I knew how to access them. What I discovered became a complete shock. I read emails to the undeniable effect that she was going out with another guy for the last 6 months of our relationship. He is a naval officer and he is at sea for certain periods. She would tell me that she had to go away with work but I have now found out that she was going on weekends to Paris with him and even holidays. I don't understand why she kept a relationship going with me for 6 months (sexual as well) when it seems she was in love with him. We didn't live very near each other anyway. I called her in a rage yesterday and challenged her. I even told her that I have read her emails but she still denied everything and nearly started to convince me that I had made a mistake. I even pointed out that as it is over there is no need to lie but she still insisted that I was misled. One email specifically states that they have been going out for 6 months.

I knew her divorced father had a midweek girlfriend and a different girlfriend for the weekends. I found this immoral but it didn't occur to me that it could be a family habit. My ex gave me the impression that she didn't approve and made me believe that she would not be capable of such a thing.

The problem is I still like talking to her and everyone who meets her, except my brother who had a bad instinct, found her to be one of the most lovely and charming people you could talk to. I think the problem I have is that I want to believe her lies. Is she some kind of selfish pathological liar or did she just try and protect my feelings. I really want to believe she has a mental problem and I want to hate her but I am struggling. My dad says I should be in church thanking god that it is over. I sent her boyfriend emails between me and her at the time he was seeing her referring to how she wants to undress me etc. Hopefully she won't be able to convince him that I am faking the emails. I am certain that because she is so nice on the surface he'll fall for it and will want to believe her like me. I just feel sorry for him because when he goes to sea he will have no idea what she is up to. Is it really possible that my ex believes her own lies?
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Move on as hard as it may be...
written by Guest , July 24, 2006
I feel your pain. I am dealing with my compulsive liar who I have been married to for the past few months. I am 29 and like your father, I would tell you count your blessings that you found out this early. I had 3 years and I am totally devastated. Many of the things you mentioned about your girlfriend, mirrors my husbandsmilies/shocked.gifne of the most lovely and charming people you could talk to. Like my husband she is probably versed in all subjects from anthropology to early BC period. It is quite apparent that she is a compulsive liar. YOu have to be strong since they make such a compelling case to make you seem like the crazy one. CL have convinced themselves that the lies are totally true. My husband is currently have multiple affairs with women and convinces them that they are the only one. IF you had access to their phone # and address, what would you do? I am trying to divise a way to inform this one woman in particular so that he doesn't trace me. Any ideas?
Again, betrayal is one of the worst states any human being can be in. It will take sometime to heal, it will also take sometime to accept the fact that we were conned. Just pray.
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thanks for your words
written by Guest , July 25, 2006
Yes, you're right. She is extremely bright, outgoing, charming. Has loads of friends and a great social life. Incidentally, I didn't meet her friends only her sisters and father. She made me feel I wasn't good enough to meet them yet. All the signs were there I guess. She has impeccable manners and I had the impression she was extremely well brought up. I know her mother speaks 5 languages and her sister learned Portuguese in about a month. She is an investment banker and extremely goal orientated. She gave me drive to pursue a better career and I even hit the books and am still trying to study. She finished with me half way through my course and I just haven't been able to study. She must have realized the affect on me.

It all makes sense now. I mentioned about her father and I know her mother is re married but only spends half the year with her new husband. It must have had a serious affect on how she is as I can see now it clearly runs in the family. A very bad family and I wish them bad luck. Like you said she managed to convince me that I messed up the relationship. I always tell people that I feel like I am a new soul in this life and hopefully this experience will make me stronger and wiser.

I don't know what to say about your case. Obviously I have managed to avoid walking the aisle but it feels so personal that you can't help feeling sorry for yourself. I definitely had a sense of satisfaction emailing her other boyfriend although I won't know the outcome and she will be able to convince him I am wrong. Whatever happens he will have a sense of doubt and I can't imagine anything worse than being out at sea with that on your shoulders. I got some very satisfying texts from her when the penny dropped about what I had done. I got her sweating. I was warned early on that she might have been cheating on me but was convinced it was a mistake. Maybe the best thing for you is to inform these other women's parents if you can as they are the most influential people. Maybe get a friend to inform these women. You would be doing them a favor. It is sad that there are people that feel they can do these things but I get comfort from the fact (although it sounds nasty and I feel guilty) that they surely have some very deep mental issues and can only really love themselves and no other.
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written by Guest , July 28, 2006
Well today I have to convince myself that I cannot be my brother's keeper all the time. I would have to approach this situation with the attitude that the women will eventually find out for themselves. A few minutes ago my soon to be ex. husband announced to me that he will be going out of the country with his daughter's mother. They are traveling for 2 weeks. I am not sure how long he will be gone. Can you believe it? No respect. After 7 months of marriage, he Never once told his daughter's mother that he is married. I know that things are over, but the lack of respect blows my mind. And since my "husband" has bad credit he is asking me to charge the ticket for him. I have a lot of praying to do this weekend. I feel extremely hurt, totally disrespected, totally betrayed.
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Need to understand....
written by Guest , July 29, 2006
My boyfriend of almost 4 months was just as many of you have written. Charming, a total gentleman, loving, great with my kids, etc. Then a few weeks back he quit calling me back, said his cell phone was on the outs, would stand me up for holidays, planned dates, etc. I wish now I had ended it. However, he kept saying he was having emotional issues due to the military so I stuck by him. Well, I was so worried about him I tracked his parents down in South Carolina. Come to find out everything he told me was a lie, from his age, to his job (or lack thereof), where he came from, etc. Come to find out he has never been to war so he wasn't having any of those emotional issues. I hate to face it but I know he's cheating on me. I ended it last night but had to leave him a message on his cell phone as he won't return my calls. Yet days later he'll call and make up all this stuff. Why is it he is the one who lied yet I am the one who feels guilty about ending it? We had tickets to a concert tonight that I bought and he's standing me up for that. I've caught him in numerous lies but he is always able to convince me. He's never even apologized for what he's done. It hurts but I guess it's better to find out now. Now I'm just scared as to how many other women he has been with.
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you have to draw a line
written by Guest , July 30, 2006
The problem that I found when my ex left me was allowing myself to let go. Everything is still running through my mind. The things that I found odd at the time but let pass I now find myself wondering was it because she was with him then etc etc. She has let me talk to her since she broke off with me which I now realize is a big mistake. It just sets you back. Its been over for 3 months now and it all still dominates my mind and how she cheated on me. I am really worried that I am living in the past and it is not a healthy way to be. I can feel my throat due to the amount of cigarettes I have been smoking as I walk around in circles with my head down outside. Its natural to want to have answers and to figure things out in your head but you just have to draw a line through it and start thinking about the future. The only way to think of it is as if they have died and are buried. Its essentially the same thing as you are never going to see them again. The only way to get over it fast is to have absolutely no contact, try to forget about the past.

I started to believe all women are selfish like she was and that I would never be able to trust anyone. You are probably feeling the same way about men. Well I am a man and I would never be capable of doing things like you all describe, so at least there is one decent man out there and there must be plenty more. The fact that they are such charming people has meant I still don't hate her for what she has done to me. Thats why you have to forget about trying to find answers. Accept they are the ones that are weak for doing it in the first place and live for now and the future. Forget about understanding! all you need to understand is its dead and buried and in your past. Move on you can do it. This is advice to myself also.
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Dealt with a Sociopath ex?
written by Guest , August 08, 2006
This is a great way to put it. There will be relapses in still trying to figure things out. However, the amount of energy exerted in seeking the truth may not be worth it. Like you, I am learning to let go unfortunately in my situation we still share the same apartment. My case is different than most of you guys since I have to tread VERY lightly. My soon to be ex is a real sociopath, who has spared nothing in stating what he will do to me. I will love again. He is the type to go all out and hire someone to try to be with be. He is really sick and the saddest thing is that he is in a field where he has access to info on anyone. Has anyone dealt with a breakup from a Real (ABC 20/20 type relationship)? I would love to hear about your experience.
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I know how you feel.
written by Guest , August 10, 2006
I am currently in a relationship with a man, who until recently i thought was only 22 (I am only 19). However I got the feeling that he was lying to me and consequently found out off my own accord that he is in fact 27. It wasn't the fact that he is 27 that shocked me-it was the fact that he had lied about it. Some people say that age is just a number-but now he has drawn attention to this. I know that he lies to me about other things too-his parents, past relationships, schooling. Everything! I can not have faith in a word he says. But like you it is hard to get out as he treats me so sweetly in the present. I have now had enough though and am going to get out. I would advise you to do the same.
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Me too
written by Guest , August 12, 2006
I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years and just moved in with him. Last year he came clean about some things he had lied about. He claimed he slept with a couple girls when in reality I'm the only girl he has even kissed (we started dating when I was 16 and he was 1smilies/cool.gif then he lied about witnessing a car wreck, then about getting in a fight. I thought it would stop and he hasn't made any new lies that I know of but he just came clean about another one today. I don't believe he can ever stop or get over this. I think he needs help but he says he cant afford it. I want to leave but he supports me since I am still in school. I just want to say f**k it and sell everything I have and go back home. I don't know what to do, because like a fool I love him.
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Dr. Who?
written by Guest , August 15, 2006
I met this guy who lied about being in medical school, his age, marital status, being a father, his parents and heaven knows what else. Anyway his W called me and supposedly told me the truth but he states that the W is not who she claims to be, either. I have fallen for this guy and have not felt this way since my husband of 6 years. I have been divorced for 14 months. Who should I believe and should i run for the hills? W stated he is not a med student, is 44 not 28 has been married for 22 years, has two kids 22 and 26, cannot spell any medical terms to save his soul, he has no money and just got a job. I feel like a fool for allowing myself to be played like a fiddle.
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Google him
written by Guest , August 15, 2006
IF you like drama then I suggest you continue with this relationship. But if you don't, Run. How did his W get your number? Go to white pages or zabasearch where you sometimes get the age of anyone. If it does not work then pay under $20 to get marriage records etc. This relationship does not sound healthy. You do not need any more pain. I suggest you do some deep soul searching. Does he have certificates from med school? Call the school, find a list of alums from whatever year he graduated... I would strongly suggest you get out.
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For the
written by Guest , September 02, 2006
For the "loves me more than any woman he's ever loved" girl:
Text: Sweetie, your words seem my words. Also my boy said that to me, and know what? I talked to an ex-girlfriend of his and she said he wasnā??t very different. She also cried when she tried to break up with him (and after, he was the one who ended it). And an e-mail I read, that another ex wrote to him ending it (just when we were starting together, so imagine...) it seemed written by me. The words, the reasons, the pain. Amazing, isn't it? And still here I am, like a fool, trying to believe life could be worst than being with him. Why do we refuse to acknowledge the painful truth and prefer the happy lie? Maybe he really loves you, like mine can really love me. But you know what? Keep an open mind. Don't shut your heart to others. Live your life the best you can, and one day, when you realize the truth, whatever it might be, you could already have found another love... Remember, he doesn't owe you anything; your goal is to be happy, with or without him! smilies/smiley.gif best wishes
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I'm Feelin You....
written by Guest , September 03, 2006
Right now Iā??m going with someone. They say they love me and stuff, but itā??s like I have a STRONG feeling that there not over their ex. I have confronted him and asked him. And he said HE was. But I know when he lies, and when he's telling the truth. And something is just telling me that heā??s not telling me the truth. Iā??m tired of thinking this way. I canā??t stand whenever they talk to other people. They act like they're not satisfied with me. I just want to feel loved, but apparently I am not. I want to just drop it and break up. I feel our relationship is fading. But I Love Him So Much... And I canā??t stand the thought of losing him, but then again. If I feel So NOT LOVED. And I donā??t want to feel this way. But something is making me feel that way. I Just Canā??t Put My Finger on it. Iā??m so heartbroken and torn right now, I donā??t know what to do.
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I hear you all......
written by Guest , September 20, 2006
My handsome, charming, respectable, airline pilot boyfriend lies to me. I don't understand it as the lies are so unnecessary: how he got injured, how long he's lived in an apt (it was 1 year, then 2 --- I later find out it was 6!) and now after a almost a year he reveals he is 4 years older than I was told... he's convinced these lies aren't a big deal but rather I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill. Like a writer above, I've now got to hide the fact that he's lied again, as my family has had it with the B.S. My willingness to stay with him has created a wedge between me and my family. I love him. We SHOULD be great... but the lies create distance, distrust and hard feelings for me. Last night I paid $60 to an internet site for a comprehensive background check on him. I don't want to be an ostridge with my head in the sand, but-- I'm deeply in love with him and I'm hoping he's going to stop and change-- for me...
Is there hope?
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I see myself in every single one of you
written by MaryAnn , September 21, 2006
I am recently out of a three year engagement to a compulsive liar. I STILL find myself falling for his lies to this day. I am trying to find a way to cut him from my life completely, as I now know he's been lying to me about EVERYTHING since day one. The worst lie he's ever told me? That he was sexually abused as a child. Why would someone lie about that? As many of you said, he always made me feel bad for accusing him and/or made me feel like I was crazy or remembered details wrong, etc..... I would like to ask if there is any support for victims or loved ones of compulsive liars? I have gone from a self confident, successful woman to an insecure heap of a mess. I feel worthless and disrespected and drained. I moved here to be with him over 400 miles away from all of my family and friends, so I am very alone. I can't move back home until I sell my house and in the meantime I am just trying to get my self-respect back, but I need help and can't afford a professional therapist. So are there any groups of people who meet or anything that have gone through the same things? If you have any information, please e-mail me at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it
Peace be with you all.
~MaryAnn
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Forum for Dealing With a Compulsive Liar
written by Expert , September 22, 2006
We have created a Forum Forum Dealing with A Compulsive Liar
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cheating
written by cheat on too. , November 17, 2006
Cheating is the end of every relationship. Love is destroyed and trusted know longer present. That is not love, that is love of yourself...
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sneek peek into the abyss
written by Mobius , December 30, 2006
I'd just like to shed a little light on things. Please keep in mind I'm not defending any actions any of you describe above. I simply want to give you a glimpse at what goes on inside my head, and perhaps, in turn allow for some insight into your own personal situations. Maybe this will prove helpful, maybe not.
First off, I am a compulsive liar. Even now, I find myself re-writing this post to try to cut out embellishments and exaggerations. Embellishing is what I do. And I am GREAT at it. No crazy horrific experiences to speak of, my youth, was quite uneventful. I grew up engrossed in books and other literatures and was usually picked on, but never constantly abused (aside from the few episodes that always seem to plague public schools).
In short, I simply found life boring. I would find myself wishing bad things could happen to me so that I too, could have a story to tell, be it a death in the family, a personal injury, anything to draw attention to myself, really. Essentially, when I told a specific lie often enough, I became accustomed to responding to comments afterwards. In a sense, it became truth to me. This relativism I developed affected everything. And I inadvertently trained myself to improvise answers instead of giving honest ones. Personally I never lied about what I considered to be "Big" things. I considered myself a poet in love and as such my philosophy was simply "It's all about the girl."
My romantic life mirrored that. Even though I was desperately in love with one such woman, the small trivial things often caught up with me. All simple menial questions:
"what's new?"
"where did you go?"
"what's on your mind?"
"what happened to the.....?"
"did you take the....?"
Usually, and to my eternal regret, without taking a second to consider the questions I often had a lie spilling out of me. Perhaps the truth was simply not colorful enough, I'm not sure how I processed it. All I know is if you asked me this second if I had put gas in the car on my way home, my first instinct would be to tell you that the gas station was closed down for some form of repair and I'd do it tomorrow. But, in honesty, I simply forgot.

Compulsive liars crave the spotlight. Looking back, I see that I basically rooted my actions after the type of person I WANTED to be and not who I was, since I felt I was obviously was far too boring to hold anyone's attention to my satisfaction. I usually was my own biggest critic. And beat myself up for everything and anything I personally considered a "failure". The worst insults given to me were usually muttered to myself under a frustrated breath. And I often hid behind the guise of "depressive episodes."
I have never been diagnosed as ADD or ADHD. But I told people I was many times. I'd talk about serious health problems, and strange medicines I required. I'd mourn random deaths in the newspaper and give myself an imagined circumstance as to how that person (falsely) affected my life so deeply. And I reached the point where I would genuinely feel the emotions and the loss. Sometimes maybe even cry. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to prove I was UNIQUE. Any way I could show the world I deserved special attention. But all the while in my self-criticisms, always telling myself contrary.

When my friends and family first realized I had a problem and tried to "call me on it" it showed some promise, but the habitual lies had become so comfortable for me, I ended up simply getting better at it as opposed to my own personal humiliation at being found out constantly. For me, the truth neither feels or sounds real when it's forced. But that's what I have to do. Force it. Counseling won't help. It will merely give me an opportunity to weave more stories to someone I have to pay to care. You know, I heard once that the money isn't in the cure for a disease or disorder, the money is in the medicine. Every person with a problem with lying has to reach and make a personal decision for themselves that they WANT change in their life. They have to come to grips that they, in fact, ARE good enough and don't need to be anything other than themselves.
Easier said than done, trust me. As I once prided myself in the ability to be a chameleon. I could go anywhere, and blend in. Talk about anything. Often times I saw other people's lies reflected as they agreed and played off of mine.
And to no small degree, it's that DESIRE that seems to be the underlining common denominator in most of us who lie without thought. We who hurt the ones closest to us with our seeming inability to be truthful in the "small" (relativism) things. If we lie in the little things, how can we be trusted with the larger things? I personally, simply always desired to be more than what I was.
More than what I am.
But first I will need to wake up every morning and remember...
"I have a problem.
But I refuse to stay this way."
If a smoker wants to quit he needs support and a compulsive liar needs a very similar approach.
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written by Tassie , December 30, 2006
Reading through all of your comments I feel like finally I'm not imagining things. I have been with my girlfriend for 3 years, and after being with her for only a few months, she became pregnant. after telling me she had some drinks and the pill didn't work... we had discussed having kids and I said I wasn't ready for a few years yet. I have recently found out that she had a miscarriage to a previous relationship and just wanted a child. I feel so used, and trapped. I know she lies about everything including stupid things that don't matter. I don't know what to do, but I want her to understand what she's doing to our relationship. when i tried to confront her, she just basically said that she didn't care if I left her. now I'm becoming hated by her for pulling her up all the time when i know she's lying. I agree that it takes a lot of effort to help someone, as i have lost friends and family members due to her lies and me standing by her. and I have a little daughter that is getting caught in the middle of it all smilies/sad.gif
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written by Linda in yuma , December 31, 2006
I am in the same boat. I have a husband that lies constantly, over little things, even when it is not necessary. We have struggled with this for 8 years. Status lies, chewing tobacco lies, the guy will eve lie about food. He is a good man with a huge heart. He is always at home with us, is very attentive and loving, and works hard. It's not lies about infidelity, etc. It's stupid lies to look good, or the fear of my disapproval. I am so frustrated. My email is This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it if anyone would like to offer advice, etc. He says he just doesn't want to disappoint me. I can't seem to impress how the lying is what disappoints!
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It's not about infidelity?
written by Doris O'Sullivan , January 01, 2007
Linda in Yuma: I, too, live with a compulsive liar. Up until now I thought that I was alone, and the only person who felt stupid and embarrassed enough to stay with this liar. I did not catch my husband the first time around. She contacted us and left a message for him on the answering machine. It's not until they are caught red handed that they own up to anything.
As a military wife, I am forced to trust him as he ships off to various spots around the world for 2-9 weeks at a time. Holding onto the belief that he would never hurt me like that again was what helped me through the separations. Pause. Rewind. Stop. We are dealing with compulsive liars. Our love and need to believe in them has us doing unreasonable things that we wouldn't ordinarily do.
I held onto this belief until phone bills and mysterious purchases shattered my bubble. Please take caution in this area. He may be leading you on a journey that you do not want to travel.
Please accept my apologies if I am harsh. My scars are deep and very recent. I wish you luck on your journey.
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I know what to do...not how to do it.
written by confused... , January 08, 2007
I knew my boyfriend had "some" problems when we first started dating. He was upfront (maybe) and told me that he had a rough past. He was a convicted sex offender (he was 21, she was 14) and "her mom read her diary..." I'm not sure if I was just taken by surprise that this guy that I hadn't met before that day, had the respect to open up to me like that... or did he? He's on 10yr probation with mandatory sex offender counseling. He put off counseling for one reason or another for the entire year that we've been dating. It was go to counseling or back to jail. Another flag right off was that he was a SPOILED ROTTEN only child who literally had been handed anything he wanted without so much as saying thanks for it. I associated his ego with the ability to get anything he wanted.
About 3 months or so into the relationship, the stars started to fade a little. he was a smoker when we first started dating, and agreed to stop (I'm allergic). I had heard through friends that he'd started again, but brushed it off. One day I was feeling a little cautious and asked him if he had been smoking again. He looked me in the eye and said "no i haven't had one since we talked before."
The conversation went further, according to him, I wasn't communicating effectively. So again I asked him about smoking. Not 10 minutes after, he looked me in the eye again and said, "yah, I'm sorry." I kicked him out. He went to his parent's house for the night (I let him back in) and called me, crying, and said a very common theme in all of these stories... "I'm in love with you, cant be with anyone else... blah blah blah" And I guess I bought it.
It's been going on for a year now. Exactly one year, I think that's what triggered my thought about this. I've caught him at several bs lies, and thought A) what else has he been lying about, B) why am I putting up with this and C) when I realized that this was a destructive relationship. WHY DIDN"T I BAIL THEN?!?!?!?! No one has no respect for him because he embellishes EVERYTHING!!!! And I cant' even listen to a story about his day at work, I don't believe half of it.
I know a lot of the problem is my responsibility. I should have ended it when this whole thing started, now I'm knee deep in a relationship that is completely unhealthy. He's accepted that he's a compulsive liar, but he admitted to me tonight that he hasn't changed because it hasn't had to. Nothing really affects him, he's so buried in himself. And he's right, it hasn't affected him because I've tolerated it for so long. There's so much about him that I know, and the more I know the less I believe...
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WANT MAKE TO CHANGE
written by ROSE CLORED GLASSES , January 27, 2007
Well, I also married a man that is a liar and I see that his insecurities from his childhood could make a person lie like this about everything. It is to the point now that when he even tries to tell something about my daughter - what she did or didn't do - I have found that he is not capable of telling the truth about anything. I have been with this person for 6 years and his lies have destroyed my own sense of reality. I can not even believe my own gut feelings - he is a con. Even when I try to make him feel safe and comfortable - that I will not judge him - he still abuses my trust.
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I don't know what to do
written by married , January 30, 2007
My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and we have a beautiful little girl. I didn't realized the signs when we were dating or even engaged until now but my husband is a cl and I don't know how to fix our relationship. He is always telling me and promising me that it will never happen again and then it does. He lies about everything from where he is, to what he wears, whether or not he watched TV or used his computer, or big things like love letters from some of his coworkers. I just feel like I don't even know him. Please give me some advice.
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I see a common theme here.
written by r , January 31, 2007
Wow! I thought it wasn't common to find out you are living a lie. My Bf also was amazing at the beginning. Just after I had fallen for him I found out he was cheating on me with a girl he had been with before we even met! I was furious but I was also amazed because he never showed any signs. I realized then that he was an unbelievable liar. I refused to speak to him for weeks and we finally met up so he could explain everything. There was so much more. It turned out everything was a lie. What I found out that day has scarred me. I can't write what he told me but it was much more than cheating... Like the others he was hard to spot. He is a model, extremely articulate, intelligent, charming and popular. Unfortunately like the other cl mentioned he is a chameleon and proud of it. If your guy can charm the pants off anyone or can fit in with any social circle be wary. If it seems to good to be true most likely it is. I am still sad to this day to know how easily these types of people can con open-hearted people and just play with their hearts. He wrote me the most amazing poems/love letters. He would profess his undying love to me,buy me beautiful things, cook for me. Somehow he could do all those things but he could not be honest. He built an amazing false reality that was hard not to want to live in. Good luck to all of you. This is not easy. I am still trying to let go but I am cemented in place.
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written by over it , February 08, 2007
I've been with my boyfriend for over a year, and caught him out a number of times with his lies. I've been numb with the pain and do not feel it any more which gives me the courage to split up. I do not want to end it badly because he was a nice guy very charming and all that, but I can do so much BETTER. I don't have to put up with his lies and neither should anyone. Stand up for yourselves. LOVE IS BLIND but when you get a little bit hurt it starts getting clearer, and I could then see the truth although he said he has never cheated on me, why couldn't he be honest? That's probably a lie too. If we carry on to be friends, I am now taking every thing he says with a pinch of salt.
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written by Gwizkid35 , February 13, 2007
Oh goodness, after reading this site I am completely freaked out... I googled Compulsive Liar advice for some basic direction, never thought I would hear about so many situations that are EXACTLY like mine. I have been married just over 6 months to a Compulsive Liar, who I believe is cheating on me and most of all is extremely physically and verbally abusive to me and my two daughters. How do we break free from this? He says he is getting treatment, he is also a bipolar alcoholic. I was warned recently about his ways from his ex-girlfriend who told me things and I investigated (internet is WONDERFUL) and it turns out she is correct, he is basically a MONSTER!!!
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written by butchinettaaa , February 20, 2007
Was with a CL for two years who I found out was married. He wined and dined me an told me things no other man ever did. Wanted to marry me!! I saw him day and night... very convincing... said he was separated. After wooing me for two years and me finding out the truth, he went home to tell his wife to move in with me. She threw him out... took him back... threw him out... took him back. Same with me, threw him out, took him back... believed all the lies. They are still together and had another child ( His life went on while mine fell apart). I moved and married but could never get him out of my mind all of these years. I thought he did the right thing by going back to his family... this is how I justified things in my mind, I guess to keep me sane. Have never stopped thinking of him for 7 years. One day I decided to call him... He said lets meet for lunch... I said okay... we talked for 30 minutes catching up on his life. He was making tons of money, he has had two affairs... one with a runway model. He is happily married, women are so attracted to him even at age 46... everyone loves him, he bought houses, has a boat, a motorcycle, he is the greatest, etc. I listened and almost believed him and said... NO, NO MORE!! Wrote him back an email:
"Cant meet you for lunch, still the same person, cant listen to that narcissistic behavior anymore, I'm a lot smarter, smart enough to listen the egotistical behavior.
I hope you find happiness in your life and with in yourself. He Responded... WOW, very judgmental.. a simple no for lunch would have done... GOODBYE!!
I was okay with my response and his, I felt good about it that I walked away from this situation. Had I met him, I am sure he would have convinced me of having an affair and I could not do that to my husband... I would have become like my CL. When we had broken up, I fell apart, I could not live without this man, all the things he would say to fill up my head about Love and Marriage and could not live without me. My world fell apart and I thought he did the right thing by going back. I started to drink, sleep around, things I never did in my life. I scraped the bottom of the barrel and his life went on. It took a few years and I have married, my marriage has suffered because I thought I still loved the CL... I am glad that I did not fall in the trap again... almost did, but did not let it happen. I have to tell you that I am going thru some kind of mourning right now... In my crazy mind, I thought when we were very old and our spouse have moved on to the higher being, that maybe we would be joined together. Insane, right!! I am mourning him now, after all these years, I am still crying, don't know if I still love him or am just so disappointed in myself for calling him... I am glad I did... because its time for me to really move on and work on my marriage and the real man who loves me truly.

I am 53 years old... This can happen to anyone at any age. I think I have finally grown up.
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written by disappointed there are this ma , February 20, 2007
Like so many people on this post.. It is actually unbelievable that there are so many deceitful people in this world. I am currently dating someone who I have labeled a compulsive liar. The lies never stop. Most of it has to do with other girls. I have no trust in him, it has actually come to the point that I can't even believe if he tells me he turned off the stove. He moved in with me as a favor, b/c my roommate backed out last minute. I never thought that it was going to turn out like this. I have been stuck for months with no options. I have been distanced from my friends, afraid to tell my parents. There are many nights where I lay in our bed wondering how I got caught up in this situation. It is clear that these types of people have no respect for us. I am just wondering what causes people to lie like this. I can not believe that it is simply because they want to seem greater than life? Best of luck to the rest of you getting out of these situations. The one thing I have realized absolutely is that People will NEVER change.
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written by fallgirl , February 25, 2007
I have come to the realization that I am a compulsive liar. I have limited resources, and am curious if meds work, or if it is like breaking a bad habit. I am so depressed over the damage that I have caused with my lying.
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written by been there, done that, no t-sh , March 17, 2007
Ok.. this is a GREAT site, and I am on weekend #3 away from my CL. These men need to wear neon tags around their necks that say "Women BeWARE." He, like most compulsive liars, is CHARMING and good looking. Well respected in his work, blah blah blah. Was working in Iraq as a contractor. Had two long term marriages. Two beautiful kids. Seemed a bit mixed up after the current divorce (she couldn't handle him being gone to Iraq, though she didn't mind spending the money). Anyway, fed my head full of crap. Always told me how beautiful I was, how special I made him feel, you get the picture. Always had the ex trying to stir trouble, but his biggest problem was he was so insecure he had to get female attention anywhere he could get it. Do I think now in the last year he was faithful? Nope. Do I think he has women strung out all over this world? YES. I am not sure who's post said, "they do it because they can" - that is the bottom line. When I caught him the first time, I forgave, because I loved him. In his sick and twisted way, he finds comfort in someone else because he doesn't feel "worthy" of being in a truly good relationship, so he sabotages it. I did walk away after the second incident. Like someone else said too, they will lie to your face, and not even bat an eye. This man has 14 years of law enforcement.. SCARY. But he lied again, and I caught him. That is what he was more concerned about, was how I caught him, not the fact that he did it, and I knew. Said he didn't want to loose me.. yeah right. So I battle the same feelings as everyone else, wanting to be with a man who is a CL. But with mine, he won't be back. He knows now that I am not one to believe his lies, so the mystery doesn't work on me. I have found that these men are what is termed, "emotionally unavailable", or narcissistic, or ambivalent. Goggle all of the above.. and READ.. because with knowledge comes power. Final thought, ALWAYS trust your gut. Mine told me to get out months ago, and I didn't do it.

Blessings to all my sisters in this struggle.
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written by deceived , March 18, 2007
I have been very interested to read so many stories so similar to mine.
I dated a guy who lied to me for 6 yrs, big lies like where he grew up and where he worked to little insignificant lies about practically everything else.
Like others have said he was a good looking guy that everyone loved and respected. He would make me feel like the most special person in the world and we had a great relationship in so many ways which is what kept me there.
He would make me feel like there was something wrong with me if I questioned him and I would end up feeling guilty.
I finally put my foot down one day and it is one of the hardest but most positive things I have ever done. I know I did the right thing and that has made it all so much easier. All I can say is get out as soon as you can. You don't want to live the rest of your life like that! It is so much harder to live like that than to be on your own.
I still keep in contact a little and he still constantly lies to me while telling me how much he has changed.
He won't ever change and as much as I would like to encourage others to try and make it work I would say don't bother, the reason he makes you feel so good is that he is a people pleaser and knows exactly what to say to get what he wants. Not a bad person but someone with a problem... Good luck to all those that are where I once was!
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written by CL , March 19, 2007
I'm a compulsive liar suffering from bipolar depression who knows my very bad habit has hurt those around me who still want very much to trust me. I still believe I've imaginary siblings, and that relationships that have long gone sour are still healthy. I'm trying to change for someone I truly deeply love, but somehow these lies comfort me, and I believe in them.
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written by krc1908 , April 14, 2007
OH my god!! Reading all these posts seems like I'm reading a little snipit of my own life. I have been with my husband for 6 years now and he lies all the time... and never sees it or admits to it. He will lie to cover up another lie! He lies about $$, jobs, women... whatever. I recently left him because I found out he was calling his ex-girlfriend that he dated 6 years ago before me! And of course when confronted with it he tried to lie! I had phone records to prove it and he still tried to lie and say he didn't know how her phone # got on his phone!! How stupid do I look?! I caught him last year in a similar situation with a girl he met through his work. I intercepted a graphic sexual message she left him on his cell phone and when confronted he tried to say it was a wrong #...then upon further prodding he said she was stalking him!! ha... he's cute but he ain't that cute!! Then upon further investigation I found out that he had in fact given her his # and initiated some sort of relationship with her. I should have left him then but I chose to stay and work on my marriage. We even started marriage counseling only to find out that the entire time were were going to counseling he was calling his ex-girlfriend. Even the counselor was shocked when I went to her and told her what I had found out. She said he always seemed so genuine and sincere about his love for you and how badly he wanted to work things out! HA... compulsive liars are apparently very good at making their lies sound like the truth. But like I said I have have left him and am trying to start over but he cannot seem to understand why I left. He's even told me he's angry with me and this entire situation and he just can't understand why I don't want to work things out with him. Hello... I was trying to work things out for the past year and for 5 months of that time he was trying to start a relationship with his ex. Compulsive liars are just that... compulsive... they'll never change... they can go to counseling and that might help but unless they're willing to be honest and try to change... they never will. My husband said he wanted to change but when he went to counseling all he did was lie to the counselor!
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written by Yet another one deceived , April 15, 2007
It has been so great to read all your stories. It has helped me a great deal. I am grieving for the loss of my sweet, loving, attentive fiance, and our marriage only 10 weeks away, and the beautiful "old age" we envisaged. He was killed by lies. A month ago I discovered everything my fiance had told me was a lie. He had invented a life for himself because he said he was too boring. None of my family or friends can believe how this wonderful man can have lied so convincingly. Although I have broken ties with him he continues to contact me "just to talk" and still believes we have a future together. I really don't think he understands why I am so shattered. He feels he has told the truth now (so he says. I doubt it!)I miss
him so much. Finding love took me so very long. I really don't believe that I will find anyone else. I am so sad and so lonely. There is such a temptation to take him back. I know I can't and reading your stories reinforces that for me. Thank you so much. I feel I have friends now. Not so aloe. Thank you everyone. Peace.
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written by Irish Firefighter , April 16, 2007
I found out a little over 2 months ago that my fiance (now ex) had been lying to me about where he was working for 6, almost 7 months. I just don't understand. And like a lot of you on this site, I find myself blaming myself and thinking "I" did something wrong. I feel so depressed right now. I thought I actually found a man to spend the rest of my life with and whom loved me for me. He has 2 kids and I have absolutely fallen in love with them. He claims to love God and goes to church but yet he lies in front of a priest and to God himself. He has told little lies to cover the big lie. He says he's sorry and admits he made a mistake but do I really believe that? And what's worse is that he was living with me and it didn't take him long once he was "exposed" to just up and leave me. Running away cause he knew I'd never let up on him because my hurt and anger are too great right now. He claims that he still loves me but he sure doesn't show it. My counselor says he should be bending over backwards to repair what he has broken and he is not doing that. He chose to run away and abandon me instead.. which is the sign of a guilty man. I opened my heart & home to this man and his 2 children. He asked me on his knees to marry him in front of all my family & friends... how HUMILIATING that 2 months later I have to tell them all "he's been lying to me for over 6 months". To this day I guess I will never know where that man got up and went to everyday for work, or even if he did work. He doesn't pay his bills, he owes his 75 year old mom a ton of money, he was behind on his child support and doesn't pay their medical bills. He asked my best friend to co-sign for my engagement ring cause he has terrible credit due to his Chapter 13 he filed. He had me out looking at $250 thousand dollar houses cause I own my home. How does he think he was going to make a house payment? He lied to me about 2 emails... he wrote them to make himself look better after I found something very negative about him on the internet, but he says they were written by 2 of his friends. I called his lie on that one and he admitted the truth cause I backed him into a corner about it and threatened to confront these people to tell me whether or not they really did write the emails. He finally confessed!!! There has just always been something not quite right about him but like all of you out there, he seemed so sincere, told me he loved me all the time, did all kinds of nice things for me, brought me little gifts, flowers and sweet cards. They are CON ARTISTS!!! They get OFF on it for some reason. It truly is a mental sickness and they need either severe counseling or medication. They hurt people DEEPLY. I feel so sorry for his 2 kids because they don't deserve a father like that. I am going to miss those 2 children so much. I love them. Why does God allow all these terrible, hurtful things to happen to people??? I admit I've told a little white lie every now & then but not continuously on such a grand scale and never did I go to such EXTREMES. He tried so so hard to convince me all the time and that's why..cause he knew he was GUILTY! I hope he gets mental help..otherwise he's going to wind up a very lonely old man someday.
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written by Imme , April 17, 2007
I have been reading through the posts and I am amazed. It is the same story over an over. I have been dealing with my CL husband for a little over two years now. Like many of you, he was the man of my dreams... telling me everything I wanted to hear. If I had an insecurity he was making me feel better about it. If I was sad or depressed, he was there to brighten my day. He brought me gifts and he took me out to all the right places. I fell in love with him hard. It wasn't but a few months into the marriage that things were starting to not seem quite right. Eventually the lies started to surface, and they have been surfacing ever since. This man lies so much he doesn't even realize what his lies are sometimes. Other times, you can get him to admit to a lie but only after you have hard evidence of the lie. He is sick. He has no one in his life. His mother and I email each other with the condition I won't discuss him. I finally asked her if I could discuss the situation with her a little. She was very kind about it, but told me no. She was sorry that he has hurt me, but she wants nothing to do with him and his lies. She said that for years she protected him because she believed him... the whole time he was lying to her and because of her rallying with him, she alienated other friends and family who tried to tell her otherwise. His lies has cost him relationships with his other two wives, he has lost jobs and he has lost friends. He has two daughters, one that will barely speak to him, and the other who shares his secrets and lies almost as much as him (very sad). He comes off sounding like Mr. Wonderful to everyone, but eventually the lies catch up with him and he has to run. For him, I think it is too risky to get too close to anyone because, and those he does get close with eventually discover who he really is. He is a 47 years old and he has no one. Soon, he won't have a wife either. I am tired and I am realizing that there is nothing I could ever do to get him to realize how much he has hurt with me with his lies so he will change. I can't get him to admit how the lies have affected his life. I am done... the only thing I am still trying to realize is how I can stop loving him and get back to a life that I use to love so much.
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written by tracy68 , April 20, 2007
I too live with a compulsive liar, what really gets on my nerves, is they don't realize just how much they are hurting the ones that they are suppose to "LOVE". Why do they do it, what do they gain from it? All they are going to do is lose their family, I have put up with this for ages, first an affair, he made it sound like I was going round the twist. And the little lies they can be sometimes worse than the big ones. They tell lies to cover lies and then forget what they have lied about in the first place. This may not make sense to some people. I'm fed up sticking up for him to family and friends. I keep saying to myself that's it I have to call it a day, but it doesn't seem that easy to let go. Confrontation is even worse he puts the barrier up and has the cheek to say I'm nagging, even if i have proof of the lie he doesn't always admit it. bl***y coward.
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written by Kiki , April 22, 2007
As I read over all of your stories, it's sad but comforting to know that I'm not alone. As much as I love this man that I met 10 months ago, pretty much everything he has told me has been lies (even when the truth was simple.) I still love him, more than I have loved anyone, but I realize now that the man that I fell in love with was someone he created... as difficult as it is for me to admit that and more, I know that I have to let him go. I realize that I can't help him, only pray for him and be there if he ever begins to crumble. I miss him, but not the lies. And not only have I been hurt but my 12 yr. old son that truly looked up to him has been also, and if I don't understand any of this, how can I explain it to his young heart?
Thank you all for sharing your stories, it has helped me on this particular journey in my life... and I wish all of you the very best!
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written by Annabelle , May 15, 2007
I was dating.. whom I thought was a man, for a year and a half. There were good times, but then there were also times where his ex was involved where she shouldn't have been. I knew that they had just broken up for at least 2 months, and it was only and 8 month relationship. I soon come to find out that they had been secretly hanging out together without me knowing. It made it even more difficult when his ex was the one that told me what was going on. I had confronted him about it and he had hoped that his ex and that situation would die away. But it didn't help when finally almost 4 months later I found the truth, or what seemed to be the truth, that while he was away working on a yacht, he came up with that I wasn't calling him enough and that he couldn't be the doting boyfriend, but that his ex was calling him and giving him the attention, and that he thought that he really needed her and was in love with her and then on the other hand he tells me that he was just seeking revenge because he wanted to mess with her head just as she messed with his, by dumping him and taking him back and dumping him. First of all, he's an idiot, because he knew she had mental issues and that she was bipolar and had tried killing herself. But it was okay that he was there for her through all of that, and then as soon as me and him start dating, he tells me that he thought the relationship was solid enough for him to go away for this job, but then turns around and tells me that he couldn't be the doting boyfriend that I needed. What kind of crud is that anyway. He keeps telling me he loves me and that I'm amazing and that there's no one else like me..but I already knew that. And for lying to me for a year and a half about alot of other things that I'm not going into now. I think it's just that I'm still in shock with everything that has happened. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, and he let me down big time. I ask him, how can you love me, if you can't even let me know what's going on, how does that help lay the foundation for anything to stand in the future. I do know what I have to do. I have to let him go. I really did care for him alot, but I can't be with someone that I can't trust, especially if they lied to me over and over and over again, for a year.

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written by key1018 , May 16, 2007
I have been married to my compulsive liar for 19 years. A few years ago his girlfriend called me. He still denied it, but she continued to call back and he had to accept that fact that I knew the truth. We went to counseling. The counselor turned on me and told me that I was pushing him too much. He promised that he loved me so much that he would again risk losing me. Well, so much for that. It is so hard to end it. We have pledged our never-ending love to each other.He is working in another state and usually comes home on weekends. He recently called to tell me that we need to separate for awhile. At this time my grown children told me about his infidelities. Of course, he denies it.This is the hardest thing that I have ever done.
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written by I think we're all dating the SAME MAN! , May 21, 2007
CL are addicts not unlike alcholics...they are master manipulators and know precisely what to say and when to say it. As it turns out, my CL is not "mine" at all...surprise! surprise!
I met my CL on line initially, then when we met in person, the sparks flew...we hit on all cylinders...physical attraction, cerebral connection, and emotional fulfillment. Within just a few short months, however, his true colors started to bleed through his impeccable facade. I caught him back on line on a different dating website that I broused through on a hunch b/c of something he accidentally commented on. When I confronted him, he concocted the most remarkable story that seemed to strongly resemble the lyrics of the "Pina Colada" song! OMG! What turnip truck did that man think I fell off of?!?
But, just like the rest of us enabling women, I forgave him and gave him a second chance...(I know! I know! Where's that turnip truck?!?)
I continued dating him for another 6 months before I started becoming suspicious of his behavior again. In my own crafty way, I managed to outwit this clever CL and actually got him to confess his infidelities by pretending to be interested in seeing him have sex with another women right in front of me. Being t he narcissistic dumb*ss that he is, he fell for the trap and ended up sending me photos and VIDEOS of him with other women from his many monthly "business trips" (don't even get me started about those f*ckathons that so many businessmen cleverly refer to as "conferences").
All at once, my heart was thrown into a blender while he mashed down the "pulp" button. Apparently, I'm a bit of an emotional masochist, b/c any other "normal" woman would've vanished after seeing photos and videos of the man she loved and adored banging away with other women. Instead, I stayed in contact with him determined to delve deeper...I knew there had to be more to this debauched man's life than what he had shown me already.
Within a few weeks, he had sent me a fifteen page confession. In it, he said he had been married for over 20 years and had three children; that he had been having affairs for the past 12 years; and that he was currently juggling 23 women simultaneously; and blamed it on his ADHD and sex addiction issues. (Gee...ya' think?!?)
What's absolutely mind-boggling to me, is that he had *me* (a skeptic from the start) totally believing that I was the ONLY love in his life...again, a master manipulator at his finest hour. I spent months trying to figure out how he managed to find so much TIME to juggle all of us women...he was INCREDIBLY ATTENTIVE to me (texting me and emailing numerous times per day, calling me several times each day, with each phone call in excess of an hour in duration...) ~ in hindsight, he must've been exhausted with the maintenance of so much estrogen!
In the end, I learned that he was merely very good at delegating, multi-tasking, and was a master at copy & paste texts/emails...he'd simply send us ALL the exact same text/emails/thoughts/voice messages...he just carbon copied his emotions and multiplied it like some sick algebraic equation.
In my own crazy way, I think that "masochistic" drive I had to keep digging for more damning info was, in some way, paramount for me to obtain in order for me to let him go. It's bad enough to be embarrassed for staying in a relationship with such a CL...but by making the evidence absolutely impossible and entirely too staggering to deny, I was able to foster enought animosity towards him to cast aside the fake relationship he had created between us...in the end, it was all just a warped, twisted illusion...and once I removed his smoke and mirrors, he no longer had a hold on me.
For what it's worth, I don't regret the time I spent with this CL, as he did manage to make me feel very important, special, and loved...albeit just an illusion. Now in hindsight, I can confidently say that I've emerged as a much more savvy woman who will be considerably less likely to ignore her gut instincts the next time around.
All this to say, I read each and every comment on this conversation blog about CL's and was moved by each story, taking some small comfort in realizing that even mature, intelligent women (and men) can sometimes find themselves as accidental relationship victims of CL's...and I just wanted to share my verbose story, to assure you, that the very first bit of advice on this strand, "RUN" is the only action you really need to heed.
Lastly, I want to share one last piece of advice that I stumbled upon, and have found it to be helpful not only in regard to my lovelife, but also in my business life, social life, and just about every other facet of my life as well:
"WHEN SOMEONE SHOWS YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM THE FIRST TIME."
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written by Living with deception , May 22, 2007
After reading all these entries it is nice to know that I am not alone. I, like many of you, found my soulmate 12 years ago. The perfect man, romantic, treated me very much like a lady - like I"ve never been treated before. We are so close - like so many of you - there is an intimate attraction that you just can't shake or leave. AFter our first year of marriage, I found that he had been lying to me and deceiving me. Like one of the others that commented, I found love letters, just like he had written to me, written to another woman. AFter going through hell with that ordeal, he promised never again, but of course more lies and deception - I learned he has done this 3-4 more times. EAch time he is confronted about lies and deception - not even about other women - just in general - he becomes extremely violent and angry. I like some of the others have noted that he has compulsive behaviors, does not recognize his lies, sees his behavior as nothing is wrong, and even lies to his counselor and psychiatrist. He is on medication to control his mood swings but now they are thinking he may be bipolar. Each time we make progress forward and I begin to trust, there are yet more lies that are discovered and we start the cycle all over again. I can predict it - just like clockwork - just like a dance that you do over and over and over. I like many of you have stated - know his heart - love him dearly - and it is the side of him that is sweet, romantic and loving that I am continually attracted to. This other dark side that surfaces causes many arguments about the little things. I will now need you all as my family to get me through this. But it seems, I will never get through it but must bear it. Any words of constructive feedback or positive wisdom that I can use will be most appreciated.
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written by Anonymous , June 13, 2007
All I can say is to not waste your time with someone who lies to you all the time. Until recently, I was in a relationship for 2 years with someone who lied to me about everything. It started out when we met and he told me that he had gotten out of a relationship several months ago and was currently single. Several months into our relationship I found out that for a quite a while into our relationship, he was still together with his girlfriend and had even been writing his daily love letters to me while on vacation with her in Japan!! He is very highly educated and ambitious, funny, charming, romantic, fluent in three languages, well off financially, and he showered me with gifts and attention. For my birthday he took me on a vacation to California where we stayed at a five star hotel, went to museums and watched sunsets at the beach. While usually not a naive woman, I was completely starry-eyed and thought that it was just all too beautiful to be true. We had a wonderful couple of days there, but I later found out later that this was the exact same trip, he had taken his ex-girlfriend on when she had her birthday. Anyway, I tried EVERYTHING to make his stop lying to me. After more than two years and soooo much energy and time wasted arguing and reasoning with him and trying to understand him, we have called it quits. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to change his behavior even just a bit. His initial reaction to anything that happens and still a lie, and his "coming clean" afterwards, was always a partial or entire lie. I couldn't picture myself without him, but now that we are no longer together I feel so much better and I am slowly regaining my joy of living and my self-esteem. I am shocked to see how negatively my relationship with him affected me.
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written by movingonnow , June 22, 2007
Again, so glad I'm not alone. I have been with my partner for 9 years and we have 3 kids. He has lied about things since we met such as little things about his past and what he does, where he is etc.. The first biggest lie was when we bought our house 5 years ago, he didn't pay the mortgage for 2 years. There was no reason not too, he just chose not too. I didn't know (stupid - yes I know but I wasn't named on it at the time - but am now - learned from that one big time) until I got a bailiff's letter giving me 48 hours to get out as my house was being repossessed. Had 1 kid then. I had questioned him about the bank letters but he just said don't worry, everything's fine. I knew he had missed some payment but not that much!!!! Anyway, it was resolved, kept house and forgave him. He is still lying about stuff like that and where he is at night, what time he was out at. When I question him and catch him out, he just denies it and turns it on me. Even with the proof in front of him. Sometimes I can read him like a book waiting for the lies. I just get accused of nagging and moaning!!! He will also exaggerate things for what reason I don't know and I listen sometimes and am laughing out loud now (never used to) at the utter nonsense that he talks. We are at breaking point - to be honest I'm only holding it together for the kids. I'm just waiting for the other family/girlfriend/who knows what to turn up. Every day is a surprise and I'm fed up now and tired. What is the point I say!
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written by Don't know what to do , June 26, 2007
Its been great reading all of your stories, as it is a comfort to me and I am hoping that you will be able to help me decide what to do.
I have been with my fella for 9 months, we got engaged after just 3 months and moved in together. Since then cracks have started to show but I've not been able to put my finger on what exactly was wrong until now. He's unemployed, stays at home and suffers with depression, which I have been very sympathetic and supportive with until now.
When I arrive home from work, he'll tell me that he's been searching for work and been turned away, and that he's been doing various things with his time. However somethings he says don't always add up. It came to a head a couple of days ago when what he said was so obviously a lie, and I decided to confront him about them.
He admitted he's been lying to me all along, about looking for work, and what he does during his day. I'm absolutely disgusted with him, as he lies so well, so I'm now questioning what else he has lied to me about. I've since spoken to his parents who also told me he lied very frequently when he lived with them, but they're also intelligent people and caught him out a lot of the time.
A day has passed since we spoke and now I feel there's a big distance between us. I've called the engagement off, but he wasn't that bothered when I told him.
I don't know what to do, because if he's lying to me so easily about small things, how am I meant to trust him, and marry him! Especially when he's home alone all day, every day.
Please help. At the moment I don't see a way out of this, other than to leave him.
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written by Htowns Finest , July 03, 2007
Well well... If he lies to you and then tells you that he loves you, that's a lie too!

I always heard being raised by my grandparents that if a man will lie, he will also steal, and kill! So I say, run! Don't turn back... It's never too late to move forward in life and look towards having a life less of the deception and other people's psychiatric issues. No one can love you and treat you the way you deserve to be treated if they are constantly lying to you! Lies beget lies, and there's nothing honorable at all about it! He doesn't honor himself much less you!
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written by Sweet Salsa , July 05, 2007
You might be interested in this one... my live-in BF of 5 years went away to ARMY reserve drill. He called one day to tell me that he was deployed to Iraq and won't be home for 18 months. I was devastated and sick with worry for his safety. He even went so far as to call me from "Germany" when he was on his way. We discussed arrangements for sending him money if he was short on cash. He even asked me to text message extra phone card numbers so he could keep in touch.

One evening, a woman called wondering why I was texting him. I came to find out that he was "deployed" to Texas with another girlfriend. When we compared notes, I was astounded at how he fed her the same lines he did me. He also lies to her in a similar way.

It's pretty sad that the people who were most honest with me were his other girlfriends (yes, plural...there were others). I thank them for giving me a clue.

Here's what's been working for me: when you feel that you really miss him (or her) because you long for that special feeling he gave you... remember that you didn't fall in love with him, but an illusion. In those weak moments when you want to call him, remember that he is telling other women the same exact lines he tells you. Just remember this: As hard as it is to accept, you are NOT SPECIAL TO HIM. I am, however, special to me... and I deserve better (same for all of you out there).

Epilogue: I now date another man. He's not as obviously charming or suave; however, he is smart, good looking, kind, sweet, and honest. There is life after a liar. A part of you might always miss the liar, but remember the BIG part of you that doesn't miss the pain that liars bring.
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written by Disquieted Deb , July 09, 2007
Like everyone else here, there is some comfort in knowing that I'm not alone. However, as I go through the latest drama after discovering my latest CL, I wonder if and when I will ever wake up and heed the signs of these damaging relationships. See, I have had 4, Yes, 4 of these type of men in my life in the past 10 yrs.

I'm beat down. I'm financially ruined. My self confidence is gone. I've lost hope and faith in people around me. It seems the very things that people have praised me for are also the same things that have made me easy prey for these snakes. I just took a test on LoveFraud.com and I scored 4 points below the top score for being Grade A Prey.

I've slowly but surely retreated from life and I can't seem to stop it. How do I go forward when I no longer trust myself? I've gone from having a wall up to berating myself for